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Kinda a thought that pops into my head from time to time about if people that lived well before writing wanted to leave an eternal legacy and at best we see their remains dressed in ornaments.

It's interesting to think that someone that lived 50k years ago paved a path for me in the sense that they probably exploded lands weren't known to their tribe or human at the, found new edible plants, or maybe created a new tool.

Crazy to think that there's billions of humans that I contributed to the life I have know and their names have long since been lost to time and that what I do today can still affect someone well into the future

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago

I mean nothing is eternal but I do get that feeling. The immensity of all the people who lived and died and how your life on the scale is so short and will end soon. Im not sure I want to have any type of written immortality and not sure anyone does. Do you really know the person who wrote or made things? Even people that meet and know you just have a kind of personal concept of you influenced by their own being. Ones entity is really something to unique to them and can't really be after it is. Heck do I know myself yesterday like I do today or last week or from last month or last year or last decade. My 5 year old self is dead. I can remember a bit from the time but can't really wrap my head around how I thought and who I was.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 4 points 7 hours ago

I think cave art is also quite intimate. Like the hand prints and stencils are very human.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago

Many years ago I heard a comedian tell a joke, "I come from a long line of people who had kids."

He was a funny guy, with a funny set, but that line always stuck with me.

[-] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

I just remembered telling a bunch of men than at one point that DNA evidence showed that 1 guy had kids with 18 women to get black pilled responses, but one guy said "that's my ancestors" and I thought that was funny

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 6 points 7 hours ago

I've heard it as a witticism amongst new parents - no idea what im doing but all of my ancestors seem to have figured it out.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 3 hours ago

Then you learn that no one has figured anything out.

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

And will share the lack of knowledge with their children.

The only honest parenting advice I got from my mother was "don't have a child like you"

In should have listened

[-] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 6 points 8 hours ago

Anyone who doesn't have children is breaking a million year old family tradition. I regard it as willfully dying out.

[-] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 9 hours ago

I'm nonbinary, like if a man and a woman had a baby

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

On the other hand, the number of humans from 50,000 years ago whose names you don’t know is vastly smaller than the number of humans alive right now whose names you don’t know.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 3 hours ago

To give a reference, it's estimated that there were about 2 million humans roughly 50k years ago.

Although that's a really rough estimate since the start of the 'how many humans have ever lived' begins around that time.

[-] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago

I just like to imagine there was a real person called Unga Bunga though. It seems statistically likely. Or some guy named, like, Andrew or something, but with absolutely no linguistic ties to any of the modern name's roots, like it arose independently more than once.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Considering we've been around for about 300,000 years, it's within the realm of possibility.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 10 hours ago

"Long" is interesting. It's an English surname, but there's also Chinese people called "Long" as it means "Dragon"

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

FYI: 龙 is not pronounced "long" lmao

you do not pronunce the pinyin as if it were an English word

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago

It's got different tones, I know that

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

None of the 4 tones of the pinyin "long" even sound like "long" in English. I mean the "o" does not represent the same sound.

Sorry if I sound like I'm trying to start a debate for no reason, but as a native Mandarin speaker, it kinda triggers my OCD xD

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago

Lóng.. Long... It sounds very similar

[-] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 18 points 14 hours ago

Lol like Andrew meant star puncher in ancient language that no tale or legend can recall.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

It used to mean "land exploder" in the before-times.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

If the name “Naomi” can occur independently in Hebrew and Japanese, it’s probably been popping up regularly since the beginning of language.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I have a Geneology book that have the names of my ancestors that were alive circa 1200 CE... (like 20something generations ago)

But like... does that even matter?

Idk what they even did except like they village wrote a short summary of what that time was like but idk what their jobs were or their behavoirs, thoughts, philosophical beliefs, political beliefs, or maybe if they were just as toxic as my parents... I literally have no info on them other than their name... so does knowing the name of your ancestors even matter?

(Also its male ancestors only thats recorded in the geneology book... thanks, patriarchy 🤦‍♂️)

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

they probably exploded lands

Khaal explores. Khaal not explodes. Khaal not dumb.

[-] Godort@lemmy.ca 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Khaal took Armageddon out of his commander deck.

[-] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

Kha'ra al explodes new lands kha'ra al found volcano

[-] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 6 points 12 hours ago

Have a read of how much history is embedded in Australian aboriginal oral stories. Their stories go a long long way back

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 7 hours ago

I think it might be possible to... over-state that.

Im sure that in some regions many of these oral histories are preserved, but in others they've sadly been lost to time. In my region there aren't any youth spending their days learning these histories, and I doubt there have been for the last 5 or 6 decades really.

Even Aboroginal place names are very unreliable.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago

You don't understand how much this hurts me

[-] freeman@feddit.org 14 points 13 hours ago

forgetting names is truly a sad thing, ComradeSharkfucker

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I like to think that historical humans prefer it that way, if it helps.

I want my name known to people who loved me and whose life I directly impacted. I like the concept of getting to know the larger human community, but I don’t think I’ll have failed if nobody remembers my name a hundred years after my death. If the choice is between my diary being found and read by people or my name forgotten, I’d prefer the latter.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 8 points 13 hours ago

You don't know John Sapien and Jennifer Sapien?

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 10 hours ago

Wasn't their kid a Homo?

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

John Q. Sapien? The guy they named the species after?

[-] halfapage@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

you don't know Kyle?

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 12 hours ago

We know a few. "Fire", for example. And "Axe". The inventions named after them are still in use to this day.

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