Twenty-one Republicans—primarily from the fascistic House Freedom Caucus—voted against the bill. The Democrats responded by supplying the exact number of votes needed to offset Republican defections.
Were the Republicans just unwilling to accept the reduced ICE budget, or actually against it?
Irrelevant when the Democrats give them the votes regardless. America, lost in 2 terms. They said it couldn't be done
America has been coming into its final form ever since Jerry Falwell successfully melded religion and politics. That gave you Reagan, Trump, and everything that comes after.
It doesn't matter anymore
I really don't understand how this can be viewed as anything other than a win.
Necessary social programs, including taxing and auditing the rich, are getting funded through September while the entire DHS runs out in 2 weeks. That's fantastic. That's the best fucking news I've heard since before the second Trump term began.
Sadly, Dems will cave and pass funding for DHS with extremely little or even zero changes.
Even if by some miracle they get "promises" to make changes to DHS, ICE, etc. There will not be any follow through.
Because people only read the headline and the same negative comments always get the most upvotes.
My theory is if 21 Republicans voted against it then there's got to be some good things in there.
I don't understand your position. Can you help me understand your point of view?
I'm stuck in my point of view, and all I can think of is if 20 nazis figured they could build another concentration camp for children, if they didn't vote for a bill, would that make the bill that continued funding the first one good on the whole? Even if it funded some libraries?
Ask yourself why the house freedom caucus is voting against it. It's because they wanted more funding for ice and more damage to the working class and less oversight on the rich.
The Republicans are running all three branches of the government elite class supporting Democrats are helping. We got to take wins when we get them.
While Trump is building concentration camps throughout the country for people to spend their whole life in! It's so thoughtful of him to not only have a jobs program to build them, but to also house people! Let's hope he also puts signs above the warehouses with something like "Work will set you free"
That's exactly what loses all funding in 2 weeks as a result of this bill.
I really don’t understand how this can be viewed as anything other than a win
Wsws.org is one of those sites it's really hard to take seriously, and their articles that do get boosted here are still the sanest takes from the website.
It's basically rage bait, it's hard to believe their writers can consistently misinterprete so much
You have to ask yourself, "What would Leon Trotsky think of this?" Then you'll understand where the Worldwide Socialist Web Site is coming from.
You can peruse their Marxist library if you need more ideas.
Because the priority right now isn't social programs and funding for shit Trump will just cut when the GOP gains unopposed power and eliminates democracy FFS. Getting a cookie by funding the elimination of democracy and the dissolution of rights isn't a fucking win.
Lmfao DHS will not run out of money. Remember when a private donor gave $130m to the military to cover wages? Yeah, that will happen again.
DHS got 75 billion to spend over the next decade in the BBB already...
The funding bill that just passed covers most of the government till September, but DHS just till end of next week, like 10 days.
They're not gonna run out of money, but they have to burn that 75 billion down while all the good shit that wouldn't have gotten any money gets funded.
Like, if you're not happy with this, what would it have taken?
130M is fucking nothing. The "Big Beautiful Bill" that the GOP passed previously via VP tiebreaker and house reconciliation gave the DHS 85 Billion dollars. It's going from $85,000,000,000 that they've already spent down to $0.
In theory, the GOP could do another similar bill with reconciliation, but why they haven't is unclear and any DNC resistance would be futile.
Good cop and bad cop, but both cops. Build an opposing faction within the DNC that refuses to cooperate with establishment dems. Take the party over.
Yep, it's like having one manager at work who is really cool, and makes it easier to work, and another manager is a screaming tyrant who makes every moment at work horrific.
We'd all rather work for the nice boss, but make no mistake, they both have the same corporate objectives, just different ways of accomplishing it.
Both parties are just lackeys for the Sociopathic Oligarchs.
This wouldn't work, the establishment has too many systems in place that would prevent this. We need to think outside of the system.
The entire election system prevents third parties. MAGA took over the gop so it can absolutely happen. They aren't all genius political actors they are fallible, have vulnerabilities and can be out maneuvered by a large enough politically active base.
The difference is that MAGA isnt a threat to the status quo, if anything they are reinforcing the systems to protect it
The entire election system prevents third parties.
Yes, that's why I said you need to think outside the system. You cannot reform the Democrats, and you cannot reform the US electoral system. Revolution is absolutely mandatory for people to live free.
Cancel the dnc and rnc.
Reform is a surefire failure
Then explain MAGA taking over the GOP. If the status quo can't change, how could it change for them? This defeatism is useless and projection of your own sense of powerlessness.
They are reinforcing the systems that protect the status quo
Unlike the Democrats, the GOP didn't have a superdelegate system in 2016. If they had such a system, Jeb Bush would've won the primary.
How the tide has turned, a year ago this post would have had 100 downvotes by now with defenders of blue fascism foaming at the mouth defending their party and their actions. Better late than never.
The worst part about being leftist is always being right too early.
Public disarmament by exploding "in place". Might send a message even to those hard of thinking that putting random things up in the ass is a bad idea.
I, too, sometimes say words in random order.
Seriously though, what?
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