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[-] AyD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago)

Yeah I guess there would be a "Sharp" decline now wouldn't it

[-] iridebikes@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

Same is true in America. If immigration is up and immigrants cause crime, why is crime down?

Almost as if it's willful delusion to push a narrative. A group of people covering their eyes and ears and lying through their teeth to radicalize people to their sick cause.

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago

This reminds me of a Republican politician interviewed on TV being told that crime rates were down, and him replying "but I don't FEEL safe".

Reality doesn't matter.

[-] ChakraNorris@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Sources: X

Ok so lies, gotcha.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Knives have been getting duller? :P

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

Hey Brits.

USA hostage here.

You are presently rolling your eyes at this manufactured outrage, hoping it will hurry up and just pass by already so people can get on with their lives, right?

We've been there. It's not going to stop, it's going to get worse. And worse.

This fascist, racist infection will turn into an even worse cancer over there because you have more than one nation around you with different looking and different sounding people who are going to start feeling more and more displacement from climate and geopolitics and who be seeking safety and survival.

You already have a surveillance state that beats us, you are losing rights and freedoms every day. You had the strongest alliances in the world, but between the Brexit fiasco and now the US's oligarchs sabotaging NATO, you are losing your strongest source of capital, which was unity and international community strength. If Ukraine falls, you will have Russia on your doorstep controlling your gas and food.

You need to do what we failed to do early enough, which is reinforce local and domestic communities and see the threat for what it is, an active force of destruction that works in slow-motion and attacks you in your weak points, your forums and subreddits and your social media, your television stations and your news agencies.

You are in so much danger of escalating chaos it's going to make the USA look sane and balanced.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

France is starting to get it. I hope more countries do.

[-] vector42@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That sounds about right for most places on earth.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Same thing here. Crime is down but reporting is up.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

And compare that to the rise of right wing ownership of media.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

And compare that to the leftist handing social media over to the right uncontested.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago
[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

My best guess is they mean that leftists tend to prefer abandoning mainstream social media platforms than fighting against the right on them. Hence Facebook, twitter etc turning full right wing while we find refuge in places like here.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

The right owns those platforms and most of the leftists are still there regardless.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

Regardless if they own them. It's still where the most amount of social relevance is. Some lefties are there and numbers and influence is growing but that's momentum dies quick without increasing numbers and engagement. And trust me they're working hard to crush me voices. I just saw one say they're getting flagged at airports because they run a travel blog and they say fuck ICE.

The left cannot win anything going forward unless they beat the fuck out of the reich on these platforms. There is no protest that can succeed if we don't have a good presence on the platforms that people get their opinions from.

They might own it, but they can't just flip a switch saying censor lefties and allow their ideas to spread. We'd all know and it would wildly turn a lot of people away from them. They are forced to leave the gates open. Instead they convince us to self censor. Reality is we all should be there now, building groups and putting their ideas against the ropes. It's a numbers game. Play the game. Give them no area to spread bullshit uncontested. We need to be creating hubs and roads so that when the next election comes and they ramp up their presence that it's met with an equal force.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 minutes ago

Do you honestly think that they don't boost right-wing stuff? They can and they do. I'll give you an example. After Trump got elected and Zuckerberg was genuflecting at him, I suddenly started seeing Trump shit in my Facebook feed. This is even with an adblocker and FBP, which normally lets me block sponsored shit. Another example: At X, Musk has ideas like "white genocide" baked into the platform's AI chatbot. You can't reform a system like that. You have to abandon it.

The left cannot win anything going forward unless they beat the fuck out of the reich on these platforms. There is no protest that can succeed if we don’t have a good presence on the platforms that people get their opinions from.

Reality is we all should be there now, building groups and putting their ideas against the ropes.

Right. The left is only going to win by...arguing with CHUDs on X? What an obvious waste of time. Yes, organize, but you don't need to organize at the Nazi bar. In fact, organizing at the Nazi bar is pretty clearly a bad idea. They control the platform. They have your personal and private data. What do you think that they're going to do if you start winning? Come on.

Also, if "we should all be there now", why are you here? Why aren't you arguing with Nazis on X? Sounds like you've got a lot of work to do!

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure a huge part of this is actually racism as this post suggests but these two graphs aren't really equivalent. The first graph is only assault with sharp objects, the second one covers posts about crime in general.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

And it could be presented as NHS being underfunded.

[-] radusecrieru91@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago

Unfortunately, this is only about hospitalisations. Crimes involving knives/sharp objects have been going steady, with a slight increase last years, from what I can see, mostly focused around rapes :( Source (uk parliament, confirming numbers about hospitalisations): https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04304/SN04304.pdf

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

yeah it s obvious hospital admission isnt the full picture.

[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago

Knife crime in sharp decline

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 1 points 42 minutes ago

These statistics have people on the edge!

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 6 points 11 hours ago

Stop, stop, you'll scare a conservative Londoner with language like that!

[-] Djehngo@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

It's generally not even Londoners re-posting crime "news" about the capital (we live there, so we know) it's more certain people from rural areas who neither live, work or visit London.

Those certain people are either the ones who have a chip on their shoulder about how London is a success despite not catering exclusively to white native born people, or people who just got sucked into an alternate reality where they read so much crime news that everyone in London must get stabbed once a year.

There is also a healthy dosage of conflating per square mile and per capita crime

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[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

I always find it interesting when you're only provided a portion of the data in a chart, as this shows "hospital Admissions" and not total incidents involving a knife.

If you look at other reports on the issue it seems like incidents involving a knife are still high (and don't follow the trend from the graph) even though hospital Admissions and deaths are down - Source.

That could mean that reporting is up while crime is down, or could mean that less incidents are ending violently, but it's not as clear a picture as the initial graph indicates.

Note: the source is for the UK in general, but other London based reports show similar. I chose that article because they seem fairly trustworthy.

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 158 points 22 hours ago

Fear mongering right wing media machine goes brrrrrr

Same thing in Germany with crime in general constantly dropping while anti immigration sentiment keeps rising under the excuse of "violent immigrants"

[-] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

It worked in United States. It’s the classic moral panic https://youtu.be/pwQqOdfc7pw

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

A common trope of this kind of "Press" in the UK was (no idea if still is, as I left Britain some years ago) the "many generations of the same family living on benefits (i.e social security)", which was part to greater far-right picture they very purposefully painted of poor people as leeches.

Somebody actual went and researched it and found out that in the whole of Britain - home to over 40 million people - there was a grand total of 3 families with 3 generations living on benefits, 4 if you count the massive stippend the Royal family gets from the British state as "benefits", though they're filthy rich and don't actually need it.

A common schitck of the far-right propaganda to selects a handful of people who are assholes and happen to be part of a social group said far-right wishes to slander and point them out as if they're representative of whole group. They do this for everybody, not just immigrants and it's not just them doing it: for example, notice how news coverage of demonstrations from some News organisations tends to focus of the handful of people destroying things rather than on the majority who are behaving peacefully, something incredibly common in pretty much the whole of the UK press, even the supposedly serious one.

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 66 points 20 hours ago

Because I don't understand correlation vs causation, I can only conclude that the monetization of X caused a steep decline in knife violence

[-] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

These two graphs cover different time periods. It looks like the monetization of X lines up with that hump of sharply increased knife crime at the end there.

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