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[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 221 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The fact that Anna's Archive isn't responding to the court tells me they couldn't give a shit about the lawsuit.

Glorious.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 89 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Sir, this is Wendys" energy.

[-] Alb@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 months ago
[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 26 points 2 months ago

Did they release the actual music yet?

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 40 points 2 months ago

It would be funny if they didn't actually have any of it and were just pestering the industry. But they did release all the metadata, and spotify seems to think it's legit...

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[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 158 points 2 months ago
[-] veeesix@lemmy.ca 137 points 2 months ago

And how much of that hypothetical $13 Trillion would be shared the poor, poor artists?

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 months ago

Roughly $0.00002/a/s/l/m

[-] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago

When this whole thing with Lily Allen was a thing, where she got more from posting feet pic on OnlyFans than from Spotify, someone posted an article that said Spotify is paying out like 150k-200k per month just for her streams. And yet only a tiny fraction of that ends up with her. Music labels fucking suck.

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[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 103 points 2 months ago

Is this the music industry asking for more than all the money in the world again?

Yes, I did say again.

[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 months ago

LINE MUST GO UP. ANY LINE ACTUALLY. WE'RE FUCKIN DESPERATE.

  • Businesses everywhere
[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 22 points 2 months ago

Well, more along the lines of 10% of all the worlds money.

... very reasonable indeed 😜

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 months ago

$13.000.000.000.000

Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.

Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here

[-] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 months ago

The higher the number, the more the stock goes up when they announce it. Should be opposite though really if these guys are incompetent enough to lose $13 trillion because of a single pirate.

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[-] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 months ago

Friendly reminder that streaming services have negatively impacted artists and art cultivation. Headbanging while blackout drunk at a dive bar gig, without directly giving the band(s) a penny, would help them more than their semiannual Spotify payout

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago

One of my favorite memories is inviting both my best friends and coworkers to a metal show at Saint Vitus, both groups hitting it off and making new friends, chatting with the bands at the merch table, and eating enough pizza to vomit on the sidewalk the moment I stepped outside.

[-] slothrop@lemmy.ca 71 points 2 months ago

If the litigants suffered these tremendous losses bc of AA, can they not deduct these losses from their taxes?

Oh, wait...

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 36 points 2 months ago

We can't sleep at night, it was... It was... HORRIBLE

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[-] Feyd@programming.dev 68 points 2 months ago

These numbers are always shitty napkin math that assumes every pirate would be a paying customer even though a lot of them don't have the money to even spend as much as they calculate, would just skip jumping through all the hoops they've created or don't even have a legal way to purchase in their country. Completely brazen lies every time

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[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 2 months ago

Apparently it's legal and acceptable to demand, through a court, enough money to destroy the world economy.

Seriously, if I were the judge I'd throw out the lawsuit until they come up with a remotely realistic number. As it is, it makes the whole lawsuit look like a joke.

[-] Insekticus@aussie.zone 18 points 2 months ago

The whole lawsuit is a joke.

And it should be permanently thrown out and not seen again because of how unserious that number is.

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[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 64 points 2 months ago

Weird, I wasn't aware that Spotify OWNED this music. I'm fairly certain they they only license it.

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[-] REDACTED@infosec.pub 59 points 2 months ago

we have stood with the artist community against piracy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

over a massive music data scrape

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

[-] far_university1990@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

200gb meta, 300tb music. Just 300tb not released yet. Might be, might not.

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

I think some sue suno and settle for money. And GEMA (germany) sue openai for songtext.

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[-] fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 56 points 2 months ago

I had a double take on that number they're asking for.

$13 Trillion? Geez, fucking greedy much? Not that they haven't been greedy before, but we're used to seeing millions and billions that are asked per track (technically they'd ask ridiculous sums of like $10,000 ~ even $100,000 per track in the past). But this just glaringly demonstrate how greedy these fucks really are and they just gotta tell everyone about it.

I still say it was dumb of Anna to bother with Spotify but I like the defiance of just not caring.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, is Anna's archive under risk even? Yeah, worst case they can get every major DNS to ban them, but that won't stop them from being accessible. And if they operate in a country that doesn't give a shit, they won't face consequences,especially if their opsec is good enough

Not to mention, things are backed up with torrents. If their servers get raided they would be able to restart where they left off

In my eyes, if you got the chance at something major like spotify's entire library, you take it.

[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 2 months ago

That's about as realistic as the Russian court that fined Google for two undecillion roubles.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 23 points 2 months ago

That's about 20 bucks though.

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[-] webkitten@piefed.social 42 points 2 months ago

A reminder you can donate to AA though a multiple number of ways including a simple Amazon gift card and it takes less than 5 minutes.

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 months ago

And you get high speed downloads if you do so!

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 months ago

Spotify doesn't even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway? Also this isn't even stealing just a digital copy sent by spotify servers

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

Probably theorizing every potential peer is pulling the whole archive.
So net worth * 100.000 potential peers = $$$

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago

Perhaps Anna can pay them off with theoretical potential money too? Like, a big collection of monkey NFTs.

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[-] Damage@feddit.it 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

At this point I must cancel my Spotify subscription. Any suggestion on how to implement a somewhat automated music discovery system that can replace Spotify's "radios" and playlists?

I already run a Navidrome instance.

[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Try Listenbrainz, it creates weekly discovery playlists based on your listening habits.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Try out manual music discovery, it's dope!

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[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago

13 fantastillion dollars

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 months ago
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[-] Lorka@feddit.dk 31 points 2 months ago

AI have made pirating legal, as long as you are not pirating for personal enjoyment. Isn’t that the defence the AI companies have used successfully?

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[-] sefra1@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 months ago

How do you even sue a shadow library? Aren't they like, behind 7 proxies?

[-] slothrop@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago

Plus, they're using the neighbour's internet!
Checkmate, spotify!

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[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 months ago

May all lawyers involved die in the most horrible way possible. Actually scratch that, May all corporate lawyers regardless of involvement die in the most horrible way possible. ☺️

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[-] Min3r@kitty.ly 27 points 2 months ago

They're gonna shit when they find out about yt-dlp

[-] AlreadyDefederated@midwest.social 21 points 2 months ago

How would they expect to collect this "money" thing? Across international borders and stuff?

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just like the Pirate Bay they will try to find and prosecute individuals behind it and then try and force governments to block the domains. Which they did, all of those guys spent trivial prison sentences (this was early internet and in Sweden, circumstances are not the same anymore), and TPB was down for like... A year I think, before it popped right back up and is going just as strong as it ever did. Because just like these capitalist laws to protect the technofeudal class evolve to protect them, so does the methods by which creative hackers employ tech to fuck them in the ass.

Hydrabay 4 lyfe

[-] three@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago

lol

lmao even

[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

I’ve honestly been trying to figure out this move for weeks. What was the point of grabbing it ALL when it’s so easy to rip whatever you want with some of the tools? Was it just a big “F you”? And peace - that’s a reason :) In that case they could care less what they get sued for. But to me it seems like unnecessarily whacking at the hornets nest. I hope it doesn’t bite them in the arse someday.

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago

What?! To pay Africa's debt for sure.

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