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Spotify and Major Music Labels Sue Anna’s Archive for $13 Trillion (hackread.com)

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Is this why the Spotify section on their torrent page says "Unavailable until further notice."?

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

spotify and major music labels should be sued for 13 trillion

[-] Lorka@feddit.dk 21 points 1 day ago

AI have made pirating legal, as long as you are not pirating for personal enjoyment. Isn’t that the defence the AI companies have used successfully?

[-] enterpries@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago

All copyright and patents laws are bullshit for morons.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Its just tribal politics.

While authority exists, everything it can touch is tribal politics and bullshit abstraction layers on top of them. Literally everything.

And terrorism. Tribal politics and terrorism.

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago

May all lawyers involved die in the most horrible way possible. Actually scratch that, May all corporate lawyers regardless of involvement die in the most horrible way possible. ☺️

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Be the change.

[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Change is about the only thing I got because of corporate greed

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 2 days ago

Apparently it's legal and acceptable to demand, through a court, enough money to destroy the world economy.

Seriously, if I were the judge I'd throw out the lawsuit until they come up with a remotely realistic number. As it is, it makes the whole lawsuit look like a joke.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

The gratuitous vulgar nonsense of it is the point. Its LBJ slapping his cock on the desk during a serious meeting to drive home that you cant fucking stop him

[-] Insekticus@aussie.zone 14 points 1 day ago

The whole lawsuit is a joke.

And it should be permanently thrown out and not seen again because of how unserious that number is.

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[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 days ago

Is this the music industry asking for more than all the money in the world again?

Yes, I did say again.

[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 days ago

LINE MUST GO UP. ANY LINE ACTUALLY. WE'RE FUCKIN DESPERATE.

Businesses everywhere

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Who is going to stop them? You?

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[-] REDACTED@infosec.pub 55 points 2 days ago

we have stood with the artist community against piracy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

over a massive music data scrape

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

[-] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Anna’s archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

Were they not going to release the songs as well? They just started with the metadata?

ETA: Yes, this is from their blog post about it:

The data will be released in different stages on our Torrents page:

[X] Metadata (Dec 2025)
[ ] Music files (releasing in order of popularity)
[ ] Additional file metadata (torrent paths and checksums)
[ ] Album art
[ ] .zstdpatch files (to reconstruct original files before we added embedded metadata)

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago

You can't sue people for something they haven't done yet. Presumably if and when the actual music files are released the damages will go up proportionally - probably to something like $(volume of the universe / Planck distance^3)

[-] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

I am not sure the shareholders will accept such a meager compensation. Did you include emotional damage in your estimate?

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

You can't

No. Because you're meat. Wake the fuck up.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

sue companies

I don't understand. This sentence does not parse. Thats like sending an email to the legal department of my kidneys.

[-] far_university1990@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna's archive is not giving you song downloads, but rather metadata

200gb meta, 300tb music. Just 300tb not released yet. Might be, might not.

So when are you going to sue AI companies?

I think some sue suno and settle for money. And GEMA (germany) sue openai for songtext.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago

Haha

[-] sefra1@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago

How do you even sue a shadow library? Aren't they like, behind 7 proxies?

[-] SunkCostStrategy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 23 hours ago

You make an effort to contact the defended and bring the lawsuit to a judge. I don't think the court will grant the 13 billions judgement, that's a fantasy number but I don't think they will throw out the lawsuit either.

Ans since Anna's Archive won't show up in court Spotify will probably receive a default judgement which they can fold and shove up their ass.

They are probably going after companies affiliated with Anna's Archive next, like especially hosting providers.

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[-] Min3r@kitty.ly 25 points 1 day ago

They're gonna shit when they find out about yt-dlp

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago

Spotify doesn't even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway? Also this isn't even stealing just a digital copy sent by spotify servers

[-] rbn@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Spotify doesn't even have that much net worth how the hell one can steal more than that anyway?

Because it was stolen already. By Anna's archive. Isn't that obvious!?

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[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 209 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The fact that Anna's Archive isn't responding to the court tells me they couldn't give a shit about the lawsuit.

Glorious.

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[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 62 points 2 days ago

Weird, I wasn't aware that Spotify OWNED this music. I'm fairly certain they they only license it.

[-] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

Spotify and Major Music Labels

[-] ranzispa@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

I guess if I were an artist I'd look at this and feel justified suing Spotify for 1 billion dollars for the lack of protection of my music.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 88 points 2 days ago

$13.000.000.000.000

Like, are we 12 now? I too would come up with these bazonker numbers at that age.

Fuck Spotify,fuck the current legal system that got us here

[-] ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 days ago

The higher the number, the more the stock goes up when they announce it. Should be opposite though really if these guys are incompetent enough to lose $13 trillion because of a single pirate.

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[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 153 points 2 days ago

[-] veeesix@lemmy.ca 133 points 3 days ago

And how much of that hypothetical $13 Trillion would be shared the poor, poor artists?

[-] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

When this whole thing with Lily Allen was a thing, where she got more from posting feet pic on OnlyFans than from Spotify, someone posted an article that said Spotify is paying out like 150k-200k per month just for her streams. And yet only a tiny fraction of that ends up with her. Music labels fucking suck.

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