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Intensive care nurses immediately doubted the word of federal immigration officers when they arrived at a Minneapolis hospital with a Mexican immigrant who had broken bones in his face and skull.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents initially claimed Alberto Castañeda Mondragón had tried to flee while handcuffed and “purposefully ran headfirst into a brick wall,” according to court documents filed by a lawyer seeking his release.

But staff members at Hennepin County Medical Center determined that could not possibly account for the fractures and bleeding throughout the 31-year-old’s brain, said three nurses familiar with the case.

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[-] Manjushri@piefed.social 128 points 5 days ago

AP shared the details of Castañeda Mondragón’s injuries with Dr. Lindsey C. Thomas, a board-certified forensic pathologist who worked as a medical examiner in Minnesota for more than 30 years. She agreed with the assessment of hospital staff.

“I am pretty sure a person could not get these kinds of extensive injuries from running into a wall,” Thomas said, adding that she would need to see the CT scans to make a more definitive finding.

“I almost think one doesn’t have to be a physician to conclude that a person can’t get skull fractures on both the right and left sides of their head and from front to back by running themselves into a wall,” she said.

So was the ICE agent dumb enough to think this was a believable story or did they just not give a fuck if anyone believed it or not? It could really go either way.

The nurses interviewed by AP said they felt intimidated by ICE’s presence in the critical care unit and had even been told to avoid a certain bathroom to minimize encounters with officers. They said staff members are using an encrypted messaging app to compare notes and share information out of fear that the government might be monitoring their communications.

Welcome to Trump's AmeriKKKa.

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 45 points 5 days ago

or did they just not give a fuck if anyone believed it or not?

We have literal footage from multiple angles of ICE agents murdering people and the government is protecting them. The agents don't give a fuck. They've been given permission to kill anyone they want and nothing will happen.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

With the blue State officials declining to press charges and therefore aceding the 10th amendment. The cunts. I fucking told you.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

Er, source? Last I knew the state was being actively prevented from investigating. And charging someone without having done any investigation is a great way to get them double jeopardy instead of held accountable.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Multiple videos providing indisputable evidence is enough to charge open murder. There is no doubt, federal agents do not have the authority to summarily execute citizens under false pretense, even if they justify it by assassinating their character and telling bold faced lies about their victim to justify it, a well worn tactic of our president and his ilk now being adopted moreso by all of our leaders up in every sector of society.

There is nothing to investigate. No reasonable person in good faith could on a presentation of the facts and evidence available to the public from day one, could say these weren't murder, and in Ms Good's case, rather premeditated at that. Perhaps 1st degree with Mr. Pretti as well.

Obviously it's a well worn tactic to kill a state prosecution by doing a federal one and getting the state to defer to them, or getting a court to give it to the feds. That is how Epstein got let off with a solicitation of prostitution with house arrest after the Miami Herarld doggedly pulled the threads of raped victims leading to a fabric of international perversions to blackmail the powerful for Israeli intelligence, surely in league with the cia as they did nothing to stop it despite stopping that being their raison de etre.

That doesn't excuse the State from doing their goddamned duty and covering their own citizens with the Shield of American Law! It's also not certain the feds would be able to pre-empt any investigation, or make it double jeopardy. Mangione is facing federal and state charges stemming from the alleged introduction to justice to a mass murderer with one of the highest body counts in the country. Although it goes without saying he's innocent, they needed a patsy so it didn't look like someone got away with it, as the photos from the scene of the perpetrator do not match the photos of mangione. If the eyebrows don't fit, you must acquit. All the "evidence," is bullshit, a gun consistent with firing a 9 mm is a laughable statement insulting our intelligence, there are more of those in this country than people in the demographic group of the perpetrator. Having written something critical of health insurance during a period of increasing plutocratic tightening of control? They have nothing of substance, other than what they will manufacture and manufacture they will because they are the tools of a plutocracy seeking to kill liberal democracy in all but name and install a one party state, thinking they will still be able to control it.

But I digress. There was enough evidence to charge from day 1. It's not only possible to charge legally and morally, it's their duty. Under the precedent set here, a federal agent could accost the governor, then execute them, without charge, and claim that governor was the perpetrator, even if it was on video otherwise. Do you not see that? Do you not see the 10th amendment also refutes the federals ad hoc claim that now the feds are untouchable imperial owners of the states? As if we are theirs, not them ours. States rights has a bad name because of it's association with slavery and the republicans that have for centuries used it to justify the unjustifiable.

But it's true nonetheless that the federal government has taken more and more power and now is openly seeking to become the supreme leader of the country regardless of voters, branches of government, checks and balances, and the fact that all powers not specifically delegated to the feds, which amount only to regulating interstate commerce while being expressly forbidden from enacting barriers to trade and movement of people between the states in almost all areas; to handling foreign affairs; to provide for the common defense internationally; ect. While expressely being forbidden from abuses common under the king in the bill of rights.

But giving up makes it worse, we won't surrender our rights, our country, our freedoms, to the worst people in the world without a fight. We won't forever let weak, often criminally corrupt (and therefore blackmailable,) corporatist plutocrat tools play good cop to Republican bad cop, even as the Republicans have openly started playing Hitler. If the local prosecutors are too weak and bereft of courage to shield their own citizens from summary execution under false pretense with indisputable video evidence, then they must be replaced. And indeed we need all new leadership.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

All that text, and you didn’t stop to think about how they would charge someone without being able to confirm 100% who it was that fired the shot?

[-] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

They identified all the shooters. The two from alex pretti were two dudes with hispanic names, I think the NYTimes just identified them, first worthwhile thing they've done this term as far as I know. Ms Good's murderer/assassin was identified long back.

The fact you come out with that as a response doesn't speak well to your understanding.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

Nah it just means you rambled to the point that I didn’t want to bother reading a wall of text. Instead of stating a clear point you wrote a novel that spanned the galaxy with how varied it was.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

You don't use reason.

[-] nocturne@slrpnk.net 34 points 5 days ago

So was the ICE agent dumb enough to think this was a believable story

It is probably the same story he gives when his wife/gf ends up in the ER for similar injuries.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago

He is both dumb enough, and he doesn’t give a fuck. Both can be true.

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[-] MBech@feddit.dk 114 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So attempted murder? Or did he die and it was just regular murder?

Edit. Seems this incident happened Jan 8. Where's the outrage? Do people just not give half a shit unless the victim is white?

[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 95 points 5 days ago

Race is probably a component, but a big one is video of the incident getting to the public. Watching an unambiguous violation instead of reading an account is far more powerful, and removes all doubt of witness reliability.

[-] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

There was no clear video like the other incident. Get out of here with that race baiting bullshit. Straight out of the opposition play book - attempt to divide.

[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Is everyone who says "people only care because they are white" forget about George Floyd? Pretty sure there were very large, nationwide protests for that.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

No they didn't forget. They're lying intentionally would be my guess. Anyone old enough to comment on politics right now ought to remember George Floyd.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Oh yeah. And then some. Back around the beginning of the month I got into it with someone here who was trying to play like they live in Minneapolis and know all about the city while they were putting out similar ragebait, except they had no idea, literally none, where George Floyd was killed. Oh, and the "American" genius who was holding forth on all the things the US Constitution says that are not actually in there while having multiple English lapses. That was some shit.

I should add that when I see this, I never offer the specific correction because I want other pretenders like them to fall into the same trap. So I pick around it to let them flounder in their obvious errors because I know anyone paying attention will see it for themselves, and I'd suggest that to others as well: point it out without actually correcting it. Highlight it, quote it, ask about it and all around it, but don't call it wrong and don't correct it, so that they can't use your input to better their game.

To be clear, if someone's not American and you have a bone to pick with the US, so what. Join the club.

But if you're pretending to be American, actively lying about where you are so you can try to manipulate, discourage and get people to give up, then you can fuck yourself sideways with a rusty chainsaw and I absolutely will jam a stick in your spokes when I see it.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think the giving the shit is when white males die.

Minorities get the Three-fifths Give a Shit Compromise. White females sometimes get a bonus point 1/5th.

Unfortunately Rene Good was not heterosexual, and forfitited her bonus point.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I really want a reply from you. Explain why it somehow doesn't matter that the killings drawing the most ire are on video. Explain it you coward.

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[-] kevin2107@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

Reddit is actively blocking this kind of talk fuck that nazi site

[-] how_we_burned@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago

Look i just left reddit because I'm deeply unhappy with their bullshit moderation / AI system (banning people for criticising MAGA morons) but dude this is not being deleted

/r/TwinCities

https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinCities/s/JmNTgnMmkL

And in /r/politics

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/OPH4TcmXj0

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This sounds like an explanation the Russian government would give. Looks like those dumb assholes in the I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat shirts got their fucking way.

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

These people are too stupid and distrusting of science to understand that medicine and forensics can very much know atleast some of what didn't happen and did happen based on the injuries sustained and know that you're lying, and what you likely did to the person.

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

"His head just did that" yeah sure ok

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 days ago

nottheonion

[-] Sambalbij@feddit.nl 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah right, and Alex Pretti just fell onto those bullets....

[-] hector@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

And ms good was trying to run down agents. /s

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 14 points 5 days ago

one doesn’t have to be a physician to conclude that a person can’t get skull fractures on both the right and left sides of their head and from front to back by running themselves into a wall

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Copaganda: we will use science to figure out what happened during this crime.

Reality: I get to say what happened. Fuck you if you dont like it! What are you gonna do about it? If you reply I get to crack your skull.

[-] Gust@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago

Man, they barely even changed their domestic abuse excuse. "I swear I'm not beating her, she just fell down the stairs". ACAB

only good ICE agent is a

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