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submitted 3 weeks ago by perestroika@slrpnk.net to c/world@lemmy.world

Summary: Republicans are 50/50, everyone else is strongly opposed.

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[-] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 234 points 3 weeks ago

75% is an awfully low number.

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 137 points 2 weeks ago

25% of people being propagandised beyond reason is a high number, yes.

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago

Truthfully at this point I'm satisfied that 15% aren't undecided on the issue

[-] protist@mander.xyz 78 points 2 weeks ago

Hitting 75% agreement in US politics is honestly unusual today, so I think it's a good sign that Trump has domestic opposition on this one

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 23 points 2 weeks ago

Unusual? "Breathing" would struggle to break 60%. 75% is functionally unanimous.

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[-] iamthetot@piefed.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

Domestic opposition doesn't mean shit if they don't do anything about it.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Soulcreator@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

One interesting point in the article you posted rather than OP's is that according to Ipsos only 17% of Americans approve of taking Greenland. I have no clue what the truth is but that number 'feels' a little more accurate.

In short that would mean 17% of Americans are ride or die MAGA which sadly is a believable number.

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[-] perestroika@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People are made vulnerable to their idol going haywire - by the need to rationalize having supported him. Thus the 50% of Republicans who bluescreened with "great leader always correct". If they have time to read up on the issue, it will drop a bit.

[-] myrmidex@belgae.social 40 points 2 weeks ago

read

making big assumptions here

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Polls are the most reliable way to be disappointed in humanity.

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[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 169 points 2 weeks ago

More likely: 50% of Republicans are still waiting for instructions what to think.

[-] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 54 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah! We need to take Greenland because checks notes that’s where fentanyl comes from and without it we will get more brown people!

Seriously brown people are all the argument they need. The racism is insane with the party. Maybe they can say that Greenland is being invaded by tren de aragua and we need to bring ice there to improve our community. It’s the same logic we already have right? As in, devoid of it.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 weeks ago

*on what to believe. Thinking is hard.

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[-] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 2 weeks ago

25% of Americans would jump off a cliff if Trump told them to.

[-] Sammy@infosec.pub 48 points 2 weeks ago

Gosh, that'd be convenient; here's hoping 🤞

[-] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't he tell them to drink bleach for covid? Unfortunately no one really did.

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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 66 points 2 weeks ago

70% of Americans approve of higher minimum wage and universal health care, too.

It doesn't matter.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

That means there has to be an overlap of millions of Americans who want this but still voted Trump. Does their stupidity know no bounds?

[-] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

There’s a metric fuckton of Americans who would resurrect Hitler and the entire 3rd Reich before they willingly voted for a woman.. let alone a brown woman.. it’s ridiculous.

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[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 weeks ago

Jesus Christ I had some hints that Republicans would be coming to their senses, but fucking 50/50?!? These people are fucking lost, too far gone. They are beyond normal legal or democratic avenues. This is a violent, fascist authoritarian cult, and they need to be stopped.

If they don't change their minds when their country threatens real hostilities against former allies, then they will not be swayed by anything except force, combined with real, uncompromising economic destruction.

Americans will need a general strike and armed protests at this point.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

They love authoritarianism, more than they love other people, democracy, anything. There's a certain amount of neural wiring involved, as people lean into it, their amygdala grows larger and their fear of "others" and "chaos" intensifies.

When I saw my mom posting a fundraiser for the Ice murderer's family last week, I realized a cop could beat me to death in front of her, and she'd tend to his bruised knuckles in apology. That was the very last straw, I don't know her anymore.

[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah David Frum famously wrote “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

He's a former neocon Bush speechwriter and an ardent anti-Trumper. He would know.

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[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Alternative perspective, for what it's worth:

50/50 is actually comparatively huge. Considering everything else has been 90/10.

The first departure from your god-king is always the hardest. I expect for many, this is the first break, and will make any subsequent break mentally easier.

Also keep in mind that people who identify/lean Republican has taken a little more than a 10% haircut since January 2025. Any "republicans say" is an increasingly smaller subset of the total voting population... getting more concentratedly nuts as they boil off the more rational ones. Even with this more concentrated version of Republicans, it's STILL not popular.

Don't get me wrong, it's not GREAT... but there is a trend line. It's not moving as fast as it should, but it IS moving.

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

It's not even former allies. Denmark is a current ally according to treaties that are signed into US law. Sure the US is effectively no longer part of NATO but all of the official reasons for invading Greenland could be accomplished by Trump admitting some agreements made by past Presidents were actually good.

This is all because one deranged old child molester wants to put his name on the map and a whole bunch of people are too gutless to admit that's what's going on.

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[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 weeks ago

Numbers like these really reinforce that there's no coming back for the US.

[-] Soulcreator@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly I actually think this is a good sign. There was a point toward the end of 2024 when Trump could have come out and said the moon is made of cheese and polls would say 50% of Americans agree with him. The fact that in less than two years Trump has lost 50% of his base is insane. He's is hemorrhaging support.

If numbers keep moving this way the midterm elections, which happen later this year will be interesting to say the least.

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[-] jim@lemmy.org 35 points 2 weeks ago

As usual the ~1/3 are totally on board for being an asshole.

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[-] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Since when does this regime care about what its constituents think?

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 weeks ago

So I should be leaving a steaming pile of poop on every fourth front porch in the US? This is depressing, I only have so much poop.

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[-] YaGirlAutumn@leminal.space 30 points 2 weeks ago

that number should be 100%

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[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 weeks ago

25% of Americans are perfectly fine with the US just taking over independent countries. 75% oppose but only if they don't have to do anything other than answer a poll.

[-] uienia@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Problem is that in dictatorships it doesn't really matter what the population thinks about government policy.

[-] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Can we revoke citizenship and deport the other 25%?

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[-] obinice@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Will they oppose it though? Or just sit on their arses and do nothing?

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[-] RalfWausE@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago

So, there we are... there IS that second amendment thing that the people of the US are always proudly citing. My question to this is: Why don't you proud Americans start to... well... doing target practice?

[-] ayax@retrolemmy.com 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The Americans pushing that misinterpretation of the constitution are for this and are really only interested in continuing to oppress the majority of Americans.

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

So. No one will talk about the 48% of Americans that are okay with abducting the President in charge of a sovereign country so rich Americans could snatch them away their oil?

Yes, foreigners, if you go to the USA, apparently that's a hot topic.

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[-] BodePlotHole@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

As an American, the fact that 25% are for it or indifferent is a shameful number...

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[-] giantripdrop@piefed.social 17 points 2 weeks ago

If only there was a system of government where the people could make decisions. Ahh, that would be too cumbersome when the number of people got to big, so maybe there could be a smaller group of people who are chosen to best represent those people's choices. Ahh, but once again that would leave idiots who could be swayed too easily making choices based on populism. Maybe if we added another smaller group of people to check that group to make sure the peoples will was not misguided.

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That sounds difficult. Let's just give one person all the power so there isn't any time wasted on disagreement.

Also, this would be a big burden on a random person so let's just give it to someone who really, really wants the power. Then, they can teach their replacement how to wield that power. That takes decades, so it should probably be someone close to them, like maybe their kid!

I think I just solved democracy!

[-] Aeao@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Most people : don’t do it

Government leaders: don’t do it

Business: don’t do it

Academics: don’t do it

All other countries and states in the world: don’t do it

Trump: I’m gonna do it.

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[-] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 weeks ago

And the other 25% are straight up Nazis.

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[-] Sonkevllen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

25% of Americans are stupid psychopaths who don't understand the consequences.

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[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

Too bad most of them elected a dictator.

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

If only ONE of those 75% was Trump.

[-] architect 11 points 2 weeks ago

Now imagine they send our fucking kids against NATO to die. Literally a nightmare in the making. We can’t allow it.

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