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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Moidialectica@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

my points about ai get ignored despite my actual programming (also with AI) experience, do they think I'm coping with cognitive dissonance or something?

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[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Every single manager i am forced to interact with now says they would “just use copilot” as an answer to every complex problem we have to which I respond “go on then” while glaring at them dennis-stare

Good fucking luck asking copilot to solve whatever shitfuck you paid consultants to wank out for 50 gazillion vbucks. Copilot has no concept of black box bespoke microservices not one person understands and is written in a language nobody uses.

Also they act like we dont use ai for programming. We do but its for mundane shit like write me a bash script that does x because i cant for the life of me be fucked to ever learn bash or powershell to a degree i can write it fluently from memory

[-] Moidialectica@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

i wouldnt wish upon my worst enemy to code ONLY with ai. Maybe at the beginning it would look fine. but god, anything above fundamentals, anything above those that can be repeated, and its talking to a boulder

[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

We already have a few hires with no fundamentals and now im seeing in the repos master_1 and master_2 and im dying internally. Not even basic git skills just pure unadulterated slop and breaking prod then running out the office and leaving me to fix it

[-] Moidialectica@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Why the fuck can't I get hired

[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When i say hires i mean offshore contractors we dont hire anyone else and havent for years. Permanent employees are being cut off slowly one by one.

When i was looking for jobs i was told they would hire me but only as a contractor

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

its talking to a boulder

Well duh have you tried telling it to be smarter than that

[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

“You are a senior developer, YOU ARE A SENIOR DEVELOPER”

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also they act like we dont use ai for programming. We do but its for mundane shit like write me a bash script that does x because i cant for the life of me be fucked to ever learn bash or powershell to a degree i can write it fluently from memory

Literally stuff like this. I got sent a horribly formatted pdf with a list of dates and times for appointments I need to go to in the next few months. Going over the pdf and entering all dates in my calendar would've been a solid like 3 hours of work, so I used deepseek to parse the pdf and turn it into a csv I could add to my calendar. I later checked the csv side-by-side to check the dates and times were correct, and added it to my calendar. Bim bam boom.

I also used it to create a small script that would allow me to watch some e-learning i'm being forced to do at 2x speed client-side.

I wouldn't trust AI with anything mission-critical or with permanent consequences, though. Not without heavy testing while sandboxed.

[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

I tried getting ai to make me a basic frontend app i could deploy at work cos we arent allowed to use anything external and i hate writing frontend. It literally couldnt even give me syntax correct code and meet any of my requirements. I vaguely remember someone saying the ai’s are trained on all the bad code like stack overflow questions and the billions of random uni project slop in github not the actually working code. It tracks because it never gives me anything up to date, always old libraries and standards and god forbid it generate frontend code it actually falls over itself completely

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

I tried getting ai to make me a basic frontend app

That's probably the only thing I'd trust an AI to one shot.

[-] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Have you tried it? I have to be really precise with my requirements the first time and maybe ill be lucky to get something working but if i ask for an edit i no longer receive valid html

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Are you using chatgpt (the website), or an IDE/CLI tool like cursor, Claude code, windsurf?

Are you asking it for vanilla JS, typescript, react, or vue, or something else?

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's good to know when it falls off... I don't code for a living, so most of what i usually code is stuff to make my life a bit easier, and it's been decent at that, even though sometimes it shat the bed. If i'm finding myself arguing with the code pinball machine to get it to do what I want, that's when I just bite the bullet and learn to do it the old-fashioned way: tweaking someone else's code from stackoverflow or sthing.

[-] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

In leaving this dogass company because they're all so obssessed with AI slop that half my time is fixing their shoddy code and the other half is getting chastised for not churning through tickets at an inhuman rate.

[-] ANarcoSnowPlow@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

If they're a c-suite exec they think you're being pessimistic because you fear for your job.

If they're a rando they think the propaganda they've ingested is right and you're stupid or they didn't see you as an expert compared to the propagandists.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

If they're a c-suite then they probably either have a bonus tied to an team AI usage KPI or a financial incentive to convince investors they're not "falling behind". Their personal beliefs, if they even exist, would come second.

[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago

My father-in-law tells me almost every time we visit about how I need to "get with the times" and "find a way AI works for me". I get real tired of his insinuation that if I don't adopt it I'm just going to be forever out of a job.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Something is real sus that after decades of memes about “those kids and their phones” or dunking on EVs. AI is the technology those same people so enthusiastically embrace.

[-] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

AI tells them what they want to hear.

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

This is a brilliant insight that only you could have come up with. In fact, its brilliance is almost outshone by its uniqueness — and that's a fact. This is not just an epoch-defining theorem, it could reshape the way we interface with AI entirely.

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago
[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

spoiler

I wasn't trying to be sarcastic/condescending, I was trying to mimic the sycophantic writing style of LLMs that tell users 'what they want to hear' like BeanisBrain mentioned

I apologise that it is mean-spirited, I didn't realise that it could be read that way as well


[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago

Nah I got it, I was joking too and also was not the original recipient of your comment

[-] 9to5@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Sounds like the new "learn to code"

[-] Soot@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I do work for a client that uses a very bespoke Linux OS setup that's been developed over decades. They continue to frown in frustration at how AI doesn't magically know how to support and debug it and that I continue to have to be paid to do that instead.

It's almost as if AI 'knowledge' isn't magical but mostly refers to a huge public corpus of troubleshooting, patterns and documentation by humans who already did the actual work and shared it online. Like.. a search engine.

If humans didn't already do it and write extensively about it online, then AI is just completely lost. And continues to confidently spout dangerous and bad information. Because, and I can't stress this enough, it isn't magic.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

My boss has actually given documentation higher priority after he heard that it's important for AI to write code. Like docs specifically written for the machine to understand. 🥴

I've asked for docs multiple times before after getting asked for input on projects with absolutely no documentation.

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago
[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

I don't write those docs. I don't know what those projects do.

[-] gramxi@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

not going along with the money = not smart

[-] neo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I'm a programmer and I hate ai. But it's being forced on us at work, so it's unavoidable if I wish to have an income.

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

My friend said they had a new framework rolled out that has you talk to an AI agent to do your ticket for you and you can't actually write anything

[-] neo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I can only imagine how much that actually kills productivity. And, for that matter, costs.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't doubt it.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

What people?

[-] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Yo, as an artist I can relate bigtime, in my experience it's always been the same people who have a disdain for art, they're just more bold about how much they hate the fact that I exist now.

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