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[–] 178 points 8 months ago (19 children)

What a coincidence that the MAGA USA's policy towards Europe is almost indistinguishable from Russia's!

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    [–] 92 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland

    There, saved you a click.

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  • [–] 92 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Europe needs to rally together to survive this. Russia is beatable, but you need to activate.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I wonder what Europe meddling in American elections is going to look like

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    [–] 84 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Hey UK, how is brexit going?

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It has taught a lot of Brits how good being in the EU was (by taking away the benefits). All the "advantages" have also evaporated like pixy dust.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It has also done the same for lot of people in the rest of the EU who before believed the same far-right populist fables about how great it would be to leave the EU, which is why the far-right in those countries doesn't talk about that anymore.

    I lived in a couple of countries in the EU and my impression was that Britain was the best candidate of all in the EU to fall for the whole "We would be better of outside the EU" because they were the ones who looked back to the years before entering the EU and mainly saw a great Great Britain (an image relentlessly beautified and pushed by local media right, which is why even now almost a century after it a "new British film coming out about how Britain pretty much singlehandedly won WWI" is still a regular event and news about international affairs in Britain tend to be either spinning Britain as having great influence in the World or "look at that tupid thing happening in that country, this would never happen in Old Blighty [as we're superior to those foreigners]" news pieces) so it was easy for such Delusions Of National Greatness to be turned into Brexit by outside influences (namely, American - just look up who funded Cambridge Analitica to spread pro-Leave propaganda).

    After the subsequent shitshow with the "most likely nation in the EU to fall for Alone We're Stronger bollocks" none of the larger nations left in the EU (which are just mid-sized nations in World terms) have any illusions that leaving would make them better of (plus people there already had fewer delusions of greatness to begin with than Brits), whilst the smaller nations never had any fond memories of time before the EU when they were little more than kicking balls for the bigger nations, to begin with.

    All this to say that the country were an EU exit was most easy to leverage by foreign interests has already had that happen and the result stands as an example that further deters the idea of leaving in the few EU countries were the idea that "we were stronger alone" ever had more than a handful of believers.

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  • [–] 63 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    According to a leaked version of the Trump administration’s US national security strategy, the White House is planning to call on Austria, Hungary, Italy and Poland to quit the EU.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (27 children)

    I mean Hungary already acts like it's not part of it when it comes to anything regarding foreign policies. At this point I'm they seem to just be mooching off the economic benefits.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    That's Orban not the people, we'll see in February IIRC when he gets the boot. Even with his anti democratic maneuversvit seems unlikely that he'd get reelected. I sure hope so too.

    They became the poorest country in the EU but benefits the most, fuck that scum traitor.

    And welcome back Hungarian people!

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    [–] 55 points 8 months ago (12 children)

    Hungary leaving EU? Oh pleeeaaassse i can only get so wet!!

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    [–] 51 points 8 months ago

    I don’t think Poland would ever actually leave the EU. Every poll says that poles love being in it even if the far right complains a ton. As someone who lived in Poland between 2005 and 2020 the improvements from being in the EU are so noticeable it would be suicide for the country to actually leave.

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago

    this has putins stink all over it, if its not obvious already.

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  • [–] 48 points 8 months ago

    Oh no, Trump, please. Please don't convince Hungary to leave. Anyone but Hungary! They're the economic and democratic backbone of the EU.

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  • [–] 47 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Step 1 to Making Europe Great Again: Ignore every idea that comes directly from a Make America Great Again mouth piece.

    Step 2: Educate the member states' populations so they stop voting in fascists.

    Step 3: Congratulations, you're done!

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    [–] 45 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    IMO: the Americans are adversaries now.

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    [+] 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
    [–] 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    Who needs enemies when you have friends like this?

    also suggest the US is attempting to create a new elite of five “Core” countries, known as the C5, to replace the G7.

    These countries would be the US, China, India, Japan and Russia.

    The #1, 2, 4, 5, and 9 economies.

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    [–] 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Isn't Trump's whole thing about stopping foreigners from interfering with your country and cultural erosion? Why's he enforcing HIS ideals on others?

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    [–] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    And we're simping for FUCKING Russian interests‽

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    [–] 26 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    You know what would be to make europe great again? It would be getting rid of the united snakes and it's proxy in the middle east

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So "Make X great again" just means bringing enshittification to the state level yeah?

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    [–] 23 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Poland, Hungary. Could he really imagine that they would ever serve HIM? (and not his boss in the east)

    Austria LOL. Delusional. They dream of the swiss way.

    Italy. They may be right wing, but never that stupid.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

    That would be great!

    Let's start with kicking out saddly (*sniff *, *sniff*) having to see the departure of Hungary.

    I mean, just look at Brexit: one side got seriously fucked up (instant fall of 20% of their currency and slowly dropping further behind economically ever since - the dream of a Economic Powerhouse Britain are gone and burried now: just ask even the most rabid Brexiter to list their Brexit Dividends) whilst the other basically just went over a small speed bump. I'll leave it as an exercise for the readers which side got which consequences.

    PS: That said, having seen the consequences of Brexit is exactly why no EU nation is likely to ever take Donald on this - after that shit show the far-right in Europe went really silent really fast on the whole "we must leave the EU" they were so loudly demanding just a few months before.

    PPS: Also as a person from a small EU country, lets just say we're very much aware of just how the big boys would fuck us up if we left the safety of the pack - unlike in Delusions Of Grandeur Britain the public opinion in little nations doesn't want a return to the way things were in 70s when they were the "punching bag of the big boys". Meanwhile the larger EU countries - which are all merelly mid-sized in World terms - after having seen what happened to Britain post-Brexit know with absolute certainty they have far greater influence being in the EU than they would outside, which is why even Italy with a well entrenched far-right government hasn't distanced itself an inch away from the EU. Only some totally out of control shit-show of a nation in the thrall of the nuttiest of nutter far-right would even just consider this and, frankly, them leaving the EU would be great for the rest (not least because, as it happenned with Brexit, it would at least temporarilly dampen the far-right in all the other countries)

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    [–] 14 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Is this a reputable news source?

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Who needs enemies with allies like these?

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    See? I told you this shit was gonna leak and start becoming your problem, too.

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