▲ 439 ▼ Leaked documents claim 'US wants to convince four countries to quit EU' in bid to 'Make Europe Great Again' (www.lbc.co.uk) submitted 8 months ago by Foni@lemmy.zip to c/europe@feddit.org 169 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmings.world/post/38211357
[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 23 points 8 months ago (1 child) Poland, Hungary. Could he really imagine that they would ever serve HIM? (and not his boss in the east) Austria LOL. Delusional. They dream of the swiss way. Italy. They may be right wing, but never that stupid. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] richardwonka@mas.to 15 points 8 months ago (2 children) @Zwuzelmaus > […] They may be right wing, but never that stupid. … we hope. People’s stupidity can be staggering. Just look at what’s been happening in MAGA land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cnstvr@leminal.space 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I agree, the stupidity of some people can be shocking. Just look at brexit. In Poland there are some minor voices for polexit, but for now it is ridiculed by majority. In 10-15 years imho it can change, since thanks to disinformation campaign done by russia we see that many people changed their opinion about Ukraine. It’s heartbreaking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 46_and_2@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* It's not only stupidity, it's pinpoint targeted propaganda and fear-mongering at less keeeping-up-with-the-times people. It's basically foreign countries heavy-handedly meddling in internal country matters to sow chaos and gain relative advantage. People will always be the weak point of any system, scapegoating them won't fix anything, there has to be a better protection from foregin (or internal) un-democratic interferences. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago Americans were only portrayed as strong and smart, like soviets socialism realism art movement portrayed soviets as strong and hard working "good" people. Nice propaganda eh. I mean we all grew up with those badass americans in movies and books, a huge bias IMO. Europeans have a huge cultural edge here IMO but I'm biased on that front ofc. We'll see, interesting times... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] richardwonka@mas.to 15 points 8 months ago (2 children) @Zwuzelmaus > […] They may be right wing, but never that stupid. … we hope. People’s stupidity can be staggering. Just look at what’s been happening in MAGA land. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cnstvr@leminal.space 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I agree, the stupidity of some people can be shocking. Just look at brexit. In Poland there are some minor voices for polexit, but for now it is ridiculed by majority. In 10-15 years imho it can change, since thanks to disinformation campaign done by russia we see that many people changed their opinion about Ukraine. It’s heartbreaking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 46_and_2@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* It's not only stupidity, it's pinpoint targeted propaganda and fear-mongering at less keeeping-up-with-the-times people. It's basically foreign countries heavy-handedly meddling in internal country matters to sow chaos and gain relative advantage. People will always be the weak point of any system, scapegoating them won't fix anything, there has to be a better protection from foregin (or internal) un-democratic interferences. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago Americans were only portrayed as strong and smart, like soviets socialism realism art movement portrayed soviets as strong and hard working "good" people. Nice propaganda eh. I mean we all grew up with those badass americans in movies and books, a huge bias IMO. Europeans have a huge cultural edge here IMO but I'm biased on that front ofc. We'll see, interesting times... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cnstvr@leminal.space 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I agree, the stupidity of some people can be shocking. Just look at brexit. In Poland there are some minor voices for polexit, but for now it is ridiculed by majority. In 10-15 years imho it can change, since thanks to disinformation campaign done by russia we see that many people changed their opinion about Ukraine. It’s heartbreaking. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 46_and_2@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* It's not only stupidity, it's pinpoint targeted propaganda and fear-mongering at less keeeping-up-with-the-times people. It's basically foreign countries heavy-handedly meddling in internal country matters to sow chaos and gain relative advantage. People will always be the weak point of any system, scapegoating them won't fix anything, there has to be a better protection from foregin (or internal) un-democratic interferences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 46_and_2@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago* It's not only stupidity, it's pinpoint targeted propaganda and fear-mongering at less keeeping-up-with-the-times people. It's basically foreign countries heavy-handedly meddling in internal country matters to sow chaos and gain relative advantage. People will always be the weak point of any system, scapegoating them won't fix anything, there has to be a better protection from foregin (or internal) un-democratic interferences. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago Americans were only portrayed as strong and smart, like soviets socialism realism art movement portrayed soviets as strong and hard working "good" people. Nice propaganda eh. I mean we all grew up with those badass americans in movies and books, a huge bias IMO. Europeans have a huge cultural edge here IMO but I'm biased on that front ofc. We'll see, interesting times... permalink fedilink source parent