librehab

isn't idf headquarters outside a mall in tel aviv?

If Hamas is using civilians as human shields then why does Israel keep bombing them? The point of hiding behind civilians is that you're playing a dirty trick on an enemy who doesn't want to hurt innocent people. Israel has shown no such restraint, preferring to make the situation as bad as possible for civilians through bombings, displacement, cutting off services, and preventing humanitarian aid from reaching those who need it. Israel doesn't care about Palestinian civilians in any meaningful way, and Hamas is obviously aware of that, so why pretend that civilians provide any cover at all?

the warsaw ghetto resistance is using civilians as human shields

if someone's actually using a human shield, you're not suddenly empowered to just obliterate the human shield are you?

Imagine if a bank robber took a hostage, then the cops show up and just magdump into robber and hostage alike, and when questioned they go "The robber was using the hostage as a human shield!"

Reminder that Obama's drone strikes classified any unidentified people killed as enemy combatants to lower their civilian death numbers

the only countries who use "human shields" are always the one america or it's allies is bombing. it is only used to place the guilt of civilian deaths upon anyone who dares resist.

Israeli police was literally walking and shooting from the rave party croud when the flood began

Murdering human shields makes you the bad guy

Point out that they're completely ineffective as human shields since the IDF just blows them up or shoots them anyway (maybe a good time to reference Hannibal Doctrine).

You mean your enemy isn't wearing clearly marked uniforms and standing in the middle of a field? How contrarian of them, do they not know the Marquis of Queensbury rules?

They're "using human shields" because these are their neighborhoods. Its easier to leave your family at home when you're invading a foreign country than when you're being invaded. These "terrorists" are teenagers defending the streets they grew up on

Only the "bad guys" shoot through hostages in the movies. The "good guys" dont 😠

Just say that there wasn't a Hamas base in that hospital or the various ones that have been blown up or taken over by settlers.

The United States uses the entire settler population of “Israel” as human shields.

show them the pic of the israelis strapping a palestinian child on a tank.

Ask them to if they also consider this Ukrainian artillery position in a school running track to be a form of human shield use. If not, explain the difference. If so, is Russia justified to level Kiev as Israel has been levelling Gaza?

sneak up behind them like im from metal gear solid and use them as a human shield

Librehab?

Didn't know we had this subcom.

Now I see it’s fashionable to call this ethnic cleansing, but that only makes sense if you’re thinking like a settler.

"Are you really telling me that Hamas, upon hearing the whistle as an incoming shell or missile from the IDF, rushes to grab the nearest civilian and wraps themselves up in them snugly like some sort of human blanket in order to protect themselves from ordinance that can level entire buildings? Seriously?"

That Israel uses civilians as human targets?

Hamas are prisoners among prisoners stuck in an open air prison. There is nowhere for them to exist that doesn't result in them being surrounded by civilians.

Israel moves settlers onto stolen land literally within hours of taking it so that anyone fighting to take it back has to go through the settlers. They literally use civilians to shield their advances.

“Civilian shields” is (and probably always was) a thought terminating cliche to write off the killing of civilian. It’s been thrown around by Western media in like every American imperialist war effort of the past 50 years.

It’s dishonest language that attributes civilian deaths to the enemy, of course, because they’re the bad guys and they have no regard for human life. We would never target civilians, because we’re the good guys, right? If we kill a civilian, it’s because the enemy put them between us (good) and them (evil)

I looked at some the photos of reports like this, and it’s usually just a bunch of kids crowding a fighter while he’s shooting at the IDF. Like yeah, the kids should probably be told to fuck off, but that’s not exactly the same as attaching a baby to your vest and going on a rampage

There's a few different things you can say. You can ask them about any specific instances, to which they'll probably answer with the music festival or the POW Hamas took in the beginning.
To the first you can point out that video footage show IOF at the festival, shooting from the middle of a crowd. There's more, but I'm lazy, it's easy to find tho.
To the latter you can ask why Israel knowingly fired on their own people. This one you can also make more general - Human shields are vile because they make use of a "weakness" of the other, that they refuse to shoot civilians. When the IOF just shoots anyway, then how are they above critique?

You can also more generally counteract their narrative of human shields. Ask them for instances of Hamas making use of these, and discuss them with them. If their definition is that Hamas hides among civilians during bombings (wrong also, they hide in the tunnels) ask them: When Gaza is so tiny and so densely packed that any bombing will hot civilians, how can Hamas avoid being amidst civilians? How does this justify a carpet bombing of Gaza? Perhaps it is the IOFs methods that should be critiqued here, when they cannot avoid murdering civilians.

You can also go on the offensive. If you know they Support Ukraine, then challenge them on this. Show them news stories of Ukrainians making use of civilians as shields (amnesty International released a report on it). Ask if that justifies Russia's invasion. Ask if that justifies levelling Ukrainian cities.