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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

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https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

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Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (7 children)

American officials told ABC: The United States is pressuring #Israel to adopt a narrower scope of its attack and adopt a gradual approach.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Artforum Fires Top Editor After Its Open Letter on Israel-Hamas War

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/26/arts/artforum-editor-fired-david-velasco-palestine-gaza.html

The cover this month is the Black Panthers

Here was the original letter, signed but a ton of people, now featuring an edit to make clear that WE CONDEM HAMAS.

https://www.artforum.com/columns/open-letter-art-community-cultural-organizations-518019/

The Artforum response is as lib as possible

https://www.artforum.com/news/a-statement-from-artforum-s-publishers-518836/

https://www.artforum.com/columns/response-open-letter-october-19-518144/

Honestly a parade of liberal "We CoNdEm AlL vIoLeNcE but Hamas is evil so they're worse"

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wall Street Journal: American officials said that the threats facing American forces constitute a source of grave concern

The Wall Street Journal reported on American officials: American forces in the region will be targeted as soon as the ground incursion into Gaza begins.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

Chris Hayes "interviewed" a Norwegian doctor about the dire situation involving hospitals in Gaza. I didn't time the segment and I was listening to it the background. I have no idea how long it was. 5 minutes? Hayes hardly asked any questions. At the end of the "interview" - he didn't miss a step he thanked the doctor for his time and quickly moved on to the next segment.

TV news often goes hours speaking elliptically about the fucking "humanitarian crisis" in Gaza in passive constructions. When they they finally sort of cover the horror - Hayes's segment is typical. I think I'm beyond angry to something like nausea. In private I hope he at least acknowledges that he's a soulless corporate husk that's addicted to his sweet, sweet MSNBC compensation package so he doesn't rock the boat. But I wonder if he even does that.

The next segment was about the hostages and I changed the channel before the flood of questions started.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Anyone think releasing the hostages is a stalling tactic? Obviously Israel doesn’t give a shit but I could see the strategy being to slowly and gradually release them over the next month in the hopes that Israel will delay the ground invasion until they’re all out.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Per CNN just now: The Detroit synagogue stabbing was not hate motivated.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

At the rate things are going those Oct 7th POWs are gonna cause a civil war in Israel

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel is preparing for a "multilateral operation" from the sea, ground and air, defense minister says

Israel is preparing for a "multilateral operation" on Hamas from the "air, ground, and sea," Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said in a video statement released Monday.

Gallant has completed a tour of the Ashdod Navy base, where he said he "conducted a situation assessment of naval operations" and "toured the shores on Israel’s southern border together with Navy Commander VADM David Saar Salama," according to the Ministry of Defense on Monday.

He commended the work of soldiers and commanders in "thwarting many attacks that would have taken place" against Israel, Gallant said in a video statement filmed during the visit.

“My message to the soldiers – well done, you did an excellent job! Keep preparing for our operation, it will come soon. We are preparing thoroughly for the next step – a multilateral operation in the air, ground, and sea," Gallant added. "Do your work, get ready. We will need you.”

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-23-23/h_419603129343e9e4f686bb5b6268359e

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (7 children)

A new "The media did nothing wrong" think piece, including the totally mindblowing conclusion that the hospital was bombed by Israel (duh).

https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/from-start-to-finish-major-media

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (18 children)

China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi has told Israel’s Eli Cohen that Beijing is “deeply saddened” by the large number of civilian deaths in the escalating Israel-Hamas war.

Yi, acknowledged that every country had a right to self-defence, but “they should abide by international humanitarian law and protect the safety of civilians,” China’s state media reported on Tuesday.

Yi is due to visit the United States later this week.

some-controversy

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

BREAKING: Thousands of Israeli soldiers have entered Gaza - Spectator Index

Not sure how true tbh

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Huge UAW victory against Ford.

Thank you President Biden for standing with the workers!

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

"So if you think about it, Gaza is the Free Folk, Ned Stark and the Starks are Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah...."

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I wonder what the fuck the IDF is up to.

‘Humanitarian efforts to expand in southern Gaza’: Israeli army

The Israeli army’s top spokesperson has urged once again residents of Gaza City and northern Gaza to move south of the Wadi Gaza river to “safer areas” where they would receive humanitarian aid, including water, food and medicine. “Tomorrow, the humanitarian efforts to Gaza, led by Egypt and the United States, will be expanding,” Daniel Hagari also said in a video message recorded on Saturday.

An other military spokesperson confirmed to Al Jazeera that the widening of humanitarian efforts would take place on Sunday. He wouldn’t elaborate on the nature of such efforts. Since the start of the war, 87 trucks have been allowed into the besieged enclave through the Egypt-controlled Rafah border crossing.

They carried water, food and medicine with UN agencies warning that it was a fraction of what was needed. By comparison, in pre-war time an average of 100 aid trucks used to enter in Gaza everyday, according to UNRWA. No agreement has been reached yet on letting fuel into Gaza causing great difficulties for life-saving humanitarian operations there.

- Al Jazeera

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called on residents of the country to protest because of the start of the Israeli operation. - Twitter

Military spokesman in Egypt: Our air forces are intensifying the work of securing our entire airspace

The Jordanian Foreign Ministry has warned that Israel's ground operation in the Gaza Strip will result in a "humanitarian disaster of epic proportions for years to come."

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I wonder if it’s taboo to take political stances on things in other countries like it is in America (my experience anyway)

In high school, I can remember no one taking a stance on anything and defaulting to the “middle” instead, even if they were the furthest thing from a centrist. Very much radiates not discussing your salary energy

Godamnit people need to talk about all the elephants in the room I swear to god because how else do you build coalition? Friends, sure, but why aren’t these things normalized

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

Meatball is campaigning via the Gaza war.

Emphasis mine.

Florida cargo flights arranged by DeSantis carried drones and body armor for Israel

The Israeli government procured the equipment and asked the state of Florida for help transporting it overseas, a source with knowledge of the arrangement told CNN. The supplies were included on two cargo planes that left Florida for Israel on October 17.

DeSantis’ office previously said the cargo flights carried “medical supplies, clothing items, hygiene products and children’s toys” that had been donated to help Israel in the aftermath of the attack by Hamas earlier this month, but it did not mention that the state was also carrying equipment for Israel that could be used in response to the war effort.

The governor’s office confirmed to CNN on Thursday the inclusion of the additional equipment.

“At the request of the Israeli Consul General in Miami, cargo planes contracted by Florida were used to transport healthcare and hospital supplies, drones, body armor, and helmets that first responders can use,” Jeremy Redfern, a spokesman for the governor’s office, said in a statement.

Redfern said that the governor’s office also worked with the Israeli consul general to “help get weapons and ammunition to Israel through private parties.” However, the source said Florida did not transport those supplies, and it’s unclear how the state aided Israel in the movement of munitions.

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https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-26-23/h_234c329652009146b0a95177fb2fcdfb

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

In light of our thunderous responses, our ongoing operations, and in response to what is happening in Gaza of honor and pride, and the bombing of our people and sons in Gaza of Hashem, we announce to everyone that a group of Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades - Youth of Revenge and Liberation in Burqa:

Lured an "israeli" army infantry force and ambushed them, detonating a locally-made explosive and firing heavy barrages of bullets, leaving the entire force dead or wounded.

We affirm that we will not calm down and will not rest as long as our people in Gaza of Hashem are under the missiles of the zionists of murder and genocide. A documented video will be published at the appropriate time.

https://t.me/PalestineResist/16404

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