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The skyrocketing cost of insurance premiums in Florida is leading residents to drop their insurance, consider selling their home, and even move out of the state, according to recent reports.

For years now, the sunny, vibrant state has been a magnetic destination for many Americans—a phenomenon which has been driving up demand for housing, especially during the pandemic, as well as home prices.

But while Florida was the number one state in the country that people moved to in 2022, it was also the one with the highest number of residents wanting to relocate, according to a SelfStorage.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a good thing their Republican Leaders are working hard to help them with this issue.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously woke insurance companies are to blame!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The weather doesn't listen to legislators.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Won't stop them from trying! The general assembly in NC literally outlawed taking ocean rise into account for determining insurance rates 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Can we build a wall to prevent them crossing the border to America?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t matter to me, they think I live in a third world communist hell hole so they won’t move where I live anyway. Never thought I would say this but… thank you Fox News!

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Sell their homes to who? Is this like a NFT, always a bigger fool, kind of thing?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago

Fucking Aquaman?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To landlords, who will charge arbitrarily high rent, secure in the knowledge that they aren't in a free market due to inelasticity of demand (people can't do without shelter) and supply (there are finite places to live). That will let them pay the insurance premiums homeowners can't afford.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Premiums they will then offload onto renters keeping their margins.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Landlords are not immune from the market. It’s not truly inelastic in that people have a choice of where to live. Climate change will eventually suppress demand and thus prices for many parts of Florida.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans who want to jerk off to DeSantis and let some racial slurs fly without social opprobrium.

That's who has been moving there since 2020 or so.

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (6 children)

They were laughing at Californians when it was happening to us (very very recently) thinking that it was the result of "liberal policymaking".

Well, how does it feel, Florida? Are you ready to put aside our differences and go after our real common enemy, the for-profit insurance industry and climate deniers? Because I promise you, this is only going to get worse unless we force them to change things.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm sure DeSantis can fix this by just "fighting woke" more, right? /s

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Insurers aren’t really to blame here. Florida is a fundamentally high-risk place to build and live now, and will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future due to climate change. Even a non-profit insurer would need to price Florida insurance at a premium, lest its funds be exhausted when the inevitable category-6 hurricane hits the state.

Arguably the ones most to blame (after the fossil fuel industry, for putting us in this position in the first place of course) is corrupt politicians and developers who allow such shoddy construction in the state in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

We don't just allow construction in risky places, we subsidize it. If you're an owner or developer and you wanna put your own money at risk by building in risky places, you should be allowed to do that. Just don't expect me to pay for it through taxes and FEMA flood insurance.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'm on team insurance in these cases. The US is filthy rich and we have tons of highly habitable land. Why are we wasting resources subsidizing some people choosing to live in comfortable, risky locations?

For those stuck in poverty: that does suck but I consider that an independent issue.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free hand of the market is giving them an invisible bitchslap.

Soon they'll be "free" from insurance.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's interesting to me that insurance companies are becoming the chief drivers of the preparation for climate change: "Wanna build a house in the woods? On a sandbar? GTFO. Use your own money."

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since humans invented math and fossil fuels, this moment was inevitable. The writing has been on the wall in Florida for ten years.

I forgot the actual statistics, but it's something crazy. Like Florida constitutes 8% of the country's homeowners insurance policies, but 80% of all homeowners insurance litigation. Florida real estate is a ponzi scheme now.

They've got miles and miles and miles of roads in Florida lined with 10-million dollar, beachfront houses, all of which will sooner than later be buried under 25 ft of seaweed for the next thousand years. The question is who will be left holding the bag on all that risk?

I'm certain the Republicans in the Florida legislature will let the insurance companies off of the hook before too long here, and will leave working people holding a bunch of worthless real estate, just waiting for climate catastrophe to wipe everything away.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Whatever it takes to finally get people to realize that living in a disaster zone is a terrible idea.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How many more years before all of Earth is a disaster zone?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean rebuilding houses in regions every 5-20 years was never gonna come out on top.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not being able to sell them (except for 10 cents on the dollar of what they paid) when they cannot be insured will be the next shock.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It won't be long, and in Florida the cost for the mortgage will be neglectable in comparison to the costs of insurance.

The big downside will be that Floridians will move out of Florida and spread elsewhere. Maybe it is time for Georgia and Alabama to invest in a massive fence?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Negligible.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Insurance typically works off historical data to evaluate risk from my understanding, and having something as disastrous as the Miami beach condo collapse bodes a bad sign for insurance companies, especially given the terrible and absolutely incompetent rescue effort during the aftermath.

By the way, I'm shocked at how quickly the Miami condo collapse left the news cycle.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Iirc Florida passed some kind of law requiring coverage no matter where a structure is. And the only way the companies could make it work was massive premium increases because the places they're being forced to cover literally have to be rebuilt every year. This was after the federal government said it wouldn't offer disaster insurance on those zones anymore.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

To be fair to Florida, that condo was built pre-Andrew and they revised their entire building code after Andrew. There aren't too many large building built pre-Andrew anymore because they were all built as cheap as possible to laundrr drug money.

That being said, there are a million reasons why i would never move to Florida, and the only building codes that can prevent your house getting inundated by flood surge is by putting it on stilts, so no shocker that the premiums are skyrocketing. Same with fire insurance in California right now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The building collapse was due to bad building code for sure; however, the apathy that followed the tragedy, both from rescue workers and the public at large, was really disheartening.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the free market meeting climate change. It will get worse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You voted for it.. You get what you get, and you don't get upset.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol @ all the people who fled the northeast because “Florida is cheap…”

Even the second place finisher of the Carolinas has gotten too expensive.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everywhere is expensive now. Sad reality.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Greedflation is real

My rent went up 24% this month. Now I'm paying half of my income to one corporation

More than my parents mortgage on their house

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People move to Florida for the same reason why people use to move to California. So you wonder when housing prices will absolutely soar. Also, lack of natural disaster preparedness is something that can't be ignored in Florida. Deregulation won't solve that problem.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much for DeathSantis utopia. Go back to Florida and don’t bring your Nazi politics to my state.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

according to a SelfStorage

Lol, what?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a storage unit company, so presumably they have their own moving service or often connect people with other moving services. They’d be able to see the trend

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah... that still seems like some extremely flimsy evidence to base an article on.

Edit - didn't notice this was from Newsweek. "Journalism"

Maybe I should connect them with my local bartender. He's full of information. Qualification? He talks to people.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Would be sick if we could pull a Looney Tunes and saw the fucking thing off from the rest of us. Let it float away and sink into the Atlantic.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't need to saw it off, climate change should take care of it.

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