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[–] 133 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I would just call him a child rapist. IMO that actually sounds worse than "pedophile" because you could apply the latter to someone who was attracted to minors but didn't rape any.

Regardless of his attraction, he raped children, so he's a child rapist.

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    pedophile, hebephile and ephebophile, are after all just terms for someone with a sexual attraction disability. Typically due to a hormonal issue, trauma or mental disability.

    A child rapist is someone who fucks minors and should be locked up for life if not put down. With a list of exceptions that a reasonable person can count on one hand.

    While no one reasonable goanna call two high school seniors fucking when ones 17 and the other is two months older at 18. A child rapist.

    A fat old fuck doing it sure the fuck is.

    We should really start calling things by what they are and not misusing terminology. Makes it less impactful.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Add to that, that to the best of my knowledge, most child rapists are not pedophiles and most pedophiles are not child rapists.

    The two being convoluted helps child rapists by letting them hide behind their sexual orientation ("he can't be a child predator, he has a wife and kids!") and hurts pedophiles by stigmatizing their condition so that they have a harder time getting help to control or remove their sexual urges.

    If we really want to reduce the amount suffering for both adults and, most importantly, children then we have to be able to start having actual conversations about this.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    If we really want to reduce the amount suffering for both adults and, most importantly, children then we have to be able to start having actual conversations about this.

    I appreciate that calling Trump a child rapist is also good for society.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I am 100% in favor of pushing the distinction.

    Let's get the pedophiles treatment or therapy or whatever helps them while they continue to not hurt anybody while contributing to society.

    Let's get the child rapists 3 hots and a cot with concrete walls all around.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    "Child rapist" also applies to people who aren't actually sexually attracted to children, but rape children anyways, which is more common than people think, because rape isn't usually actually about the sex, it's about the power

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  • [–] 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    This distinction only means something for psychology.

    And I get that the vast majority of child rapes happen because children are more vulnerable HOWEVER at some point you can just afford an adult prostitute 1000 times over if you actually want that. It's clear that these people actually wanted to rape children. So the pedophile label makes sense.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Exactly. Splitting hairs and calling it an obscure word that is only ever used in a clinical setting weakens and cheapens it. just call them pedophies. don't let them redefine or spin it. just pedophile.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Or just be accurate and call them a rapist. A child rapist.

    Pedophile already is a weakened word. Both cause it gets over used, and because it does have an actual accurate use case that doesn't accurately describe what's happened.

    Accurate terminology is always more powerful.

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    [–] 53 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    See, the distinction between a pedophile, hebephile and ephebophile exists for a good reason.

    But the thing is, the moment you start getting into those differences, it immediately makes you sound like a pedophile.

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It's OK to have Sex with Children!

    -People OUTLAWING Rainbows to Protect The Children!

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    After the normalisation of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, white-supremacy, maga is now explaining us how raping kids is not actually pedophilia. Or if it is it's because those kids where beging for it. And if they didn't they just deserved it and the age of consent is a woke concept anyway.

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago

    "he's not attracted to small children, just slightly bigger children!"

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  • [–] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    He can go on live television and eat a living, screaming baby and they will defend him.

    The only reason they asked for the files is because they believe there are only people they don’t like on it.

    There are no bounds to this insanity.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Lol, pedo-prez supporters have been working overtime to protect their pedo-leader. No surprise that this old libertarian "I'm not really a pedophile even though I want to rape minors" chestnut came back.

    Gonna have to change the meaning of POTUS, given the head of our country is now the Pedophile of the United States

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    That implies he's the only one. There's plenty of pedophiles in the GOP. Maybe we call it the GOPOP now

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Kinda insane so many of them are defending it

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I don't understand how they can even defend it. Best case scenario they are saying that raping women is perfectly fine as long as they're old enough. I get that with some of the extreme MAGA out there really do believe this kinda shit, but I'm sure bullshit like this is why we see more and more people leaving MAGA every day. It's no surprise that Republicans are getting absolutely destroyed in almost every election lately when you see what they act like and I feel like that will be their eventual downfall. They see these echo chambers online and believe that is an actual representation of what all republican voters think. A lot of people seem to forget, but most people still sit somewhere in the middle especially outside the internet. There's still an argument to be had about how ignorant people were when it came to the election last year, but bitching about what already happened is never going to get us moving forward.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    The right wing party, to an astonishing degree, cozies up with and funds literal extremist organizations en masse. the left went for more social and peaceful methods, while the right wing only ramped up the mayhem. that's one of the reasons that since the late 70's there has been absolutely no element of left wing organized terror (only a few lone wolf attacks and ecoterrorism), while there is always, at any given point in time, a number of organized, well equipped extremist organizations on the right engaging in all types of activities..... political violence, stochastic terrorism, radical violence, misogynstic violence, massive amounts of disinfo, and countless other activities.

    No, not all individuals who are conservative subscribe to or even know about this. But the party itself is absolute cancer of the worst degree possible. they are not nearly as benign and harmless as you think. .

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    My take on this is that pedophilia encompasses sex with minors a whole, and then you have your subtypes.

    Don't really care if this is technically accurate or not. It dodges the semantic bullshit pedophiles use.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    What was the word he was about to say?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    Nah, 12-13 is definitely ped territory. Don't even have the fancy names as an excuse.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Sometimes its not easy to filter the news just with memes. Who fucked who this time?

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Laura Ingraham (of Fox News fame), put out an article that we should all relax, because Jeffrey Epstein's victims were on average closer in age to 15 than 5, and spouted some technicalities about the definition of pedophile, as if that makes grooming children to sexually exploit and trade access to for favors any less repulsive.

    The timing of the news release is right after a clever procedural move in the US House brought a vote to release the Epstein files and now all the conservative media is trying the "maybe we did, but it wasn't really that bad" lines.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    "He's not a pedophile(class), he's a pedophile(subtype)" is what mm hearing

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I am so sorry, at first glance I read minors as minions....

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