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Iraq dominated the headlines throughout the fall of 2002 and into the winter of 2003. Public opinion on the wisdom of war, however, stabilized relatively early and slightly in favor of war. Gallup found that from August 2002 through early March 2003 the share of Americans favoring war hovered in a relatively narrow range between a low of 52 percent and a high of 59 percent. By contrast, the share of the public opposed to war fluctuated between 35 percent and 43 percent.

Looks like Americans are even more happy with murdering people if its done by a puppet.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/rally-round-the-flag-opinion-in-the-united-states-before-and-after-the-iraq-war/

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Americans don't believe in anything, half of them can barely read, if you asked them whether Israel was justified in butchering 800 children the poll would most likely flip with 70% saying no, if you asked whether Israel has a "right to self-defense" without any qualification, probably 90% would say yes

If you asked them if Israel has the right to genocide the Palestinians, 50% would say "not sure" and 50% would say no, but 40% would vote yes if it was a closed ballot referendum item

Americans are incoherent lotus eaters who think the height of political intellectualism is enlightened centrism with "remote drone bombing" characteristics

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

“Were IDF soldiers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold justified in entering a Hamas school? 85% says yes”

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago

Country built on genocide supports genocide shocked-pikachu

[–] [email protected] 81 points 11 months ago (2 children)

60% of those people don’t even know what Palestine is

[–] [email protected] 77 points 11 months ago (5 children)

where that train derailed, right?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago

Lmao oh yeah

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

if they can remember that far back in time

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Poll: 70% of bed bugs are currently thirsty for blood

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is what I'm talking about. Finally, someone understands on this website.

[–] bdonvr 24 points 11 months ago

70% of bedbugs currently in France

[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (1 children)

usians are the most propagandized people on earth

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago

Random usain :What propaganda?

People who can think: Exactly

[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While arguing with a co-worker about how what Israel is doing to oppress the Palestinians and how they have been pushed to this point, he asked me if I thought the Holocaust actually happened. It is beyond their comprehension that anyone would have any other opinion and it's easier to just assume I'm some weird conspiracy theorist.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I got the same thing. I was talking about how Israel has historically treated Palestinians and was asked if I was a Holocaust denier.

They couldn't comprehend how I thought Israel was capable of doing those things when the Jewish people were victims themselves not too long ago.

I don't get the logic.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago (4 children)

what percentage of Americans could tell you what the Nakba was? 5%?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Could 5% of Americans find Palestine on a map?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

5% would be incredibly impressive considering what I know about Americans

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

I think a solid third of Americans would think it's a racial slur.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

majority of americans support whatever they are told to support by the president and mass media

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Propagandists trotting out the fact that their propaganda worked, while fudging the results to make their propaganda look even more effective as a way to further their propaganda campaign.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Remember who they are polling, who answers their landlines, who picks up a phone from 'unknown'

It's boomers, folks

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (16 children)

The CNN poll surveyed 1,003 adults via text message, and only surveyed adults with mobile phones. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.0 percentage points.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The poll also shows that it's only 27% in ages 18-34. Every age range is less and less propagandized on Israel. So that's nice.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Boomers definitely have some type of brain poison on the Israel issue, they collectively all just are evil on this issue

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lead poisoning is the blight of the age and it isn't taken seriously enough

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Cool guess I hate 70% of Americans now

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago

Always should have.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago

70% of americans astronaut-1

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if the news portraying palestinians as a turbo-raping, baby-beheading, anti-semetic zombie horde has anything to do with public opinion?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

News be like: Surely they won't buy the 'enemy of the week #143 are also rapists' bit again are they?

Americans: YOU BETTER KEEP THAT SLOP COMING!

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That is a very open ended question so it shouldn't be that surprising that the results are like this. What part of the response are we talking about? Are we talking about whether it is justified for Israel to respond at all? Are we talking about whether the severity of their response is warranted? Who the fuck knows! Probably a lot more of the people who interpret it as the first would agree with the poll.

The propaganda is how this will be presented as 70% of Americans being pro-Israel, which this poll does not demonstrate.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago

I hate these public opinion polls that: 1. Demonstrate how effective the prior waves of propaganda was were for informing the general public's opinion, and 2. Are themselves wielded by propagandists who show them off like "This is the popular/common opinion, so it must be [good], [correct],[normal], [popular], etc."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thinking Israel is justified to respond at all is pro-Israel given the history of the nation

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago

every american is a legitemate target , good to know..

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

Fake polls. The fakest polls around. Nobody asked me.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

New law making it illegal to answer no

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

70% of 320,000,000 is 224,000,000

how tf are we going to build a gulag big enough for a quarter billion people

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

a lot of people dont really have strongly held beliefs, they just go with the status quo

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we build a big wall

It'd be expensive though maybe Mexico can chip in

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Most Americans just look what’s on the news then get on with their day. The technical majority of public opinion alone doesn’t translate into political power when most people are generally apathetic beyond some performative politics to inject some engagement into their socially-starved lives.

In fact, it being only 70% (or even 80%) is likely a cause of concern for the state which used to enjoy near-unanimous support from the electorate in this issue in particular and calling Israel an apartheid state was something only kooks would say. Especially when pro-Palestinian and pro-ceasefire demonstrations have been met with state violence almost immediately (and so far look to be growing as the media consensus is cracking).

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

That's actually smaller than I would have thought given the propaganda environment

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Majority of Americans are easily led by whatever their empire tells them

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