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[–] 88 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Those things exist for one goddamned reason.

Fuck with my LOTO and I'm gonna try to get you booted from my jobsite. That's a pissing contest worth pursuing.

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  • [–] 58 points 11 months ago

    Seriously I would be giving an ultimatum, either that guy gets fired or I'm not coming back. Imagine your coworker whips out a gun and shoots at you while at work, that's basically what this guy did.

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  • [–] 70 points 11 months ago

    imo that should be treated as attempted murder with all related criminal consequences

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  • [–] 68 points 11 months ago

    One time we were on this job during a plant shutdown. everyone on our crew attached a lock to the LOTO slot. One guy took off without undoing his lock. Everyone had to wait for this guy to answer his phone, turn around, drive back, get his PPE back on, walk back to the lock box and cut his own lock.

    There was nobody inside the facility, every machine was shut down for the day. Still, not a single one of these incredibly impatient and pissed off tradesmen even JOKED about cutting buddy's lock. You just don't do it

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  • [–] 59 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yea if someone fucks with my lock out and managment/the company doesn't take it seriously I'm walking out while I still can

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  • [–] 56 points 11 months ago

    Isn't this what happened to that kid who got killed in a literal meatgrinder in a plant? Jesus.

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  • [–] 55 points 11 months ago

    I know of one guy who cut a lock-out lock at an old job. It was done after hours when nobody else was around and he had "confirmed" that nobody was near the device in question. He was immediately fired because you DO NOT FUCKING CUT A LOCK OUT LOCK.

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  • [–] 53 points 11 months ago

    Commits seriously reckless safety violation that puts workers' lives in danger without telling anyone

    Management: Just don't do it again. See you tomorrow at 9.

    what-the-hell

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  • [–] 51 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    They say in the Twitter thread that they think the person isn't getting punished because they're so understaffed. That they'd rather just be careless with the lives of the workers, instead of dare hire and train more people. Which sounds very plausible unfortunately.

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  • [–] 48 points 11 months ago

    in communist china they don't care about worker's safety

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago* (8 children)

    What's LOTO in this context?

    I only know it as the abbreviation for "Leader of the Opposition" which obviously doesn't make sense here.

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  • [–] 83 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You’re about to crawl inside a big dangerous machine to fix it, so you put a lock and tag on the power switch so that nobody can turn it on while you’re in there.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    A big zoo near me has a raceway between different animal enclosures. Most of the animals are monkeys and they're not that dangerous but for the dangerous animal they have a specific LOTO system that says "JAGUAR HAS ACCESS."

    For anyone who might have a hard time conceptualizing its use in an industrial setting, this is basically a one-for-one comparison.

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  • [–] 62 points 11 months ago

    It's literally a lock on a switch to physically prevent it from being opened, because the equipment it's connected to is being worked on and energizing is dangerous

    This is one of the most maliciously stupid things I've ever seen and that's saying something

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Wild, that kinda thing is honestly grounds for firing

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    The stories my dad used to tell me about factory machinery used to keep me up at night

    Horrifying stuff

    And most of those stories started with people not using/fucking with the lock-out shit

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

    There's a particularly horrifying story from a local dairy farm where a worker

    spoilerclimbed into some kind of mixer to unclog it, didn't lock it out, and for some reason it was controllable via WiFi and the boss decided the mixer should be running.
    Guy was like 30 with a small kids and his own farm, but had to work at this shitty dairy to supplement his income. Big farm in the area bought out his whole place within a few months of him passing.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO WIRELESSLY CONTROL HEAVY MACHINERY WHAT THE FUCK

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

    It's incredibly common in industrial automation to control things over networking. Usually it's an Ethernet connection to a computer or laptop interfacing with a PLC that's running code, but same idea. I've built and installed control rooms in steel mills, they're mostly computers running Siemens or Allen Bradley (Rockwell) software, monitors hooked up to cameras around the mill, and operator stations with push buttons, joysticks, lights, e-stops, etc. And plenty of HMI's (big touch screens). Think Homer Simpson's job

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  • [–] 39 points 11 months ago

    if you ever wonder for an example between social murder vs. murder look little further than this

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago

    HOLY FUCKING SHIT! WHOEVER CUT IT DOESN’T DESERVE TEETH!

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  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    So this is like ripping a red tag-out note off on a piece of machinery and operating it anyway? I only have a naval frame of reference.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    lol 7 upbears but nobody answered my sincere question ;-;

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    LOTO is lock out tag out, so it's the same thing lol.

    The LO part is because you're supposed to literally lock the machine with a padlock that only you have the key to so no one start it while you're in the danger zone.

    Someone cut this guy's $90 American lock off with an angle grinder to run it anyways...

    You can also see that there's multiple holes for locks so multiple people can have the machine/area locked out at the same time and you can't start anything until all of them unlock it. So someone was in a hurry and didn't wait for the last guy.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    In he navy we just had the red and yellow tags, no padlock, and I have never heard of a safety incident involving tagged out equipment. Amazing that the private sector manages to be even more sociopathic than the us navy.

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago
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    The person that did this will get someone killed eventually.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago*

    This is usually an instant termination not because of safety but because doing this shit is a fantastic way to lose your insurance. Also a serious OSHA violation and against labor laws in almost every state. Exposing the company to massive liability is reason enough to fire someone for this.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Am I correctly understanding that these locks are some sort of failsafe on dangerous machinery and that there are procedures and specific reasons for unlocking them properly?

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 11 months ago

    You put them on machinery so no one can accidentally turn it on while someone is working on or even in it.

    Last thing you want is someone getting turned to paste because the hydraulic press they were in the middle of servicing got turned on.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    Yeah, that's not good.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    A lot of padlocks like this don't even need to be cut. Pretty much any of them with a spring loaded catch can be opened by hitting it. Don't even have to hit the cheaper ones that hard.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    When did this turn into r/electricians?

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    Where is the OHS rep wtf

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I have no idea what's going on here. What's a LOTO?

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