"we haven't optimised this at all, lol, $80 please"
What a total dick. Lots of people with high end PCs are all saying how it runs like shit, so what's the next excuse?
They're not premium gamers. It's about what's inside your soul, not the kind of PC you have.
I love Borderlands, but I really wish Randy would just shut the fuck up.
I think he thinks he's Jack in The Pre-Sequel, but really he's Jack in Borderlands 2.
Jack in BL2 was funny and entertaining tho.
Probably not if you lived on Pandora.
I hate borderlands, and I also wish Randy would shut the fuck up!
The problem is Randy.
That's the thing, Randy, we aren't interested in a monster truck, we just need a car. A 5090 is not a leaf blower, and your game looks more like a clown car than a monster truck given the way it runs. Thanks for telling us that you are basically only interested in whales, although I can't imagine they are happy either regardless of how they've probably thrown money at you already.
Eh. I didn’t even finish borderlands 3. won’t bother getting 4
How does someone with such a shitty personality and dress sense get so smug?
If I looked and acted like him I would want to punch myself in the face
How does someone with such a shitty personality and dress sense get so smug?
Lots and lots of money.
If I looked and acted like him I would want to punch myself in the face
He has top of the line security details to do that for him.
A game that looks like BL4 shouldn't run like Cyberpunk 2077 with ray tracing turned on.
Dude really felt the need to insult his customers. He could have said it’s a premium game for premium machines, but instead he decided he wanted to insult people who can’t play it and suggest they are less than the premium people who can.
2K needs to get this nut away from the mic.
This reminds me of the "AAAA" game thing.
So a 4070 is a leaf blower to this asshole.
Well I'll gladly not buy this game then.
I'm an ok gamer, maybe even good, but premium? I don't know... I guess this game isn't for me. Better spend my money on other games then.
Such a bad argument. There is no reason for the game to not support lower end hardware except for lazy development. Not a good sign for the future of borderlands. This is also the type of game that really sucks if you don't get a locked 60 FPS. Borderlands 3 is still a laggy mess on my steam deck. Sometimes it just stutters forever. Constantly generating shaders or something. There is no reason for it to be that way and lowering the setting has almost no effect on the actual performance. This is 100% the fault of the devs. They are pushing half complete products to market not the consumer.
Also as many others have stated, not everyone has $4000 to drop on a PC. My most powerful machine is a Skylake processor with a 1070. It runs most games fine, it's just the handful of unoptimized unreal engine games that run badly. I have nearly limitless options to buy other games from devs who actually care about us poorer folk. A 4070 ti is like 800-1000 rn. Probably won't even run this game well. This is in an age where we have had nearly 100% inflation in a few years. Most people can barely afford to buy a car without spending half of their paycheck. They should be trying to make their games work on older hardware now more than ever. Ram is cheap, there are some things you can work around. It's usually not worth it to target low RAM devices, but there is really no good reason for you game to not scale well to lower end GPUs. You don't have to have only 4k textures on disk. You can easily automate a process to create lower poly, and lower resolution textures, implement modest lighting systems. It's pretty easy in relation to other things. Cpus are mid, you shouldn't necessarily target 10 year old CPUs if it's going to make the game worse but your game shouldn't be so unoptimized that you need 5.5 ghz on a single core to get 60 fps. You should at least have a proper lod system in place so that you can support lower end GPUs in many cases where it's not very difficult.
The issue with many of these modern triple AAA games is they are trying to avoid as much work as possible. They are trying to avoid targeting lower end hardware because it's a bit of work and they are struggling to finish their games. They need to plan for these things from the start and work them into their process.
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That's nice, he is kind enough to tell us that we should not buy his game if we do not have a monster gpu. He is only excluding a very small portion of gamers after all !
Let's look at the Valve's hardware survey.
Wait...
Considering Randy REALLY wants you to pay $130 USD for this game, I'm not shocked his performance advice was "be less poor"
There aren't enough monster truck owners to support his game. If he gets his wish, Gearbox is going to lose a whole lot of money
The reality is that it is a mass market game. It needs mass market adoption. Currently much of the market is locked out due to performance issues
It's poorly optimized UE5 slop. Looks like shit, plays like shit.
Hard pass.
Hot take, Borderlands was never really a good franchise. Yeah I played through the second game, but i did so once, and never wanted to return to it afterwards.
I can't decide if the explanation that "our shitty game is made for premium gamers" is more or less absurd than EA charging 80 bucks for a game with most of its characters still locked would "provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment".
the fact, that steam reviews were on mostly negative on launch day, and it suddenly got mostly positive means steam has once again tempered with the statistics. fuck valve as well.
Steam tampers with statistics of the reviews? Is there like proof of that part specifically? Im just seeing people thumbs up and complaining about performance
big companies call it review bombing when they fail to meet consumer expectations. in these cases valve doesnt count negative reviews within a time period.
Sucker game made for sucker gamers.
Are you inclined to blame yourself for the obvious failings of a gaming corporation? Smash that buy button now!
Maybe try optimizing your game before releasing it?
So anyway, you guys excited for Hades 2?
I played lots of borderlands 2 with my friends back in the day it was pretty fun.
Three came out, played it for a bit, but it was just more of the same and somehow worse. Then I watched that God awful movie.
I think I'm over the franchise, but maybe here in a few years I'll pick it up for $5 in a summer sale.
In other words:
"We don't want to put resources towards optimising our product. We don't care if the methods we built our product with make it more difficult to use, while regressing in several key visual aspects. The burdon of our shortcomings will be placed on the end user, who will have to spend their resources to out-power them."
So… I shouldn’t plan on playing this on a Steamdeck when it gets down to $19.99?
I'll play something cheaper then
Same argument Sony gave when EverQuest 2 launched with stupid high required specs. World of Warcraft launched a month later you could run on any video card from the last 5 years and the whole franchise still hasn't recovered.
I am a premium gamer; if you want me to play your premium game, you'll need to subscribe to me for $29.99/month or $324/year (that's a 10% discount from the month to month!)
It's sad that a lot of devs just make their game and then slap frame-gen on it and then release it. Like who cares about optimization. Not that I blame them, people still buy those games full-priced, so...
Bought it to try n Linux. I don't have the greatest video card but I can play Dune: Awakening, Helldivers 2, Monster Hunter Wikds, Avowed, Black Myth: Wukong...
Borderlands 4 was stuttering on the barely animated character select. I lowered settings all as low as possible and it was still unplayable with delayed/missed input and stuttering.
Did not read the article. I have a 3070 graphics card (windows 10)and the game ran fine. I had a problem with not being able to select a different weapon until I messed with it quite a bit and my friend had one crash. He has a 3050.
Frankly I expected much worse, but this is just not a good response. Is he using this as an excuse NOT to fix it?
While I have no desire to defend Randy, Twitter is as Twitter does, and unless you spend time looking at his whole timeline, it sounds like he's saying only stupid shit like this. He did actually acknowledge the issues, and stated that they're working on them but also that for now the best way to play is with FSR/DLSS and frame gen.
I disagree with this deeply. He makes arguments about the imperceptibility of latency in frame gen, but that's only true when the base framerate is high enough. DLSS is probably fine, but it's also pretty fair for those who are using an 80 or 90 class card to complain about struggling at 1440p native, let alone 4k.
There aren't that many Premium™ Gamers®, and trying to pretend that that is, like, a legitimate target demographic to pander to is just sad, folks.
(The funniest gamer influencer backlash I've seen lately was against some YouTuber who blew ~$2K on gaming desk and a chair and called it a "minimalist" setup. People at large rightfully went "are you shitting me".)
I mean minimalism is a style, not your budget
Minimalist != minimal budget
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