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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago (1 children)

2.2 million people, most of them kids, trapped without water right now. People can only live like 2-3 days without water. Egypt has yet to open any corridor or send any notable amount of humanitarian aid. Good thing tomorrow is Friday, hundreds of thousands will start to die of thirst if it was any later. Millions of refugees will hit the borders, either on boats or breaking into Egypt. Israel may try to open a corridor for civilians, but the resistance will die of siege quickly if there's no outside attack. Hezbollah you are needed. Iran you are needed. Syria, I'm sorry you don't get any breaks but you are needed. Turkey stabbing Syria in the back right now and attacking any Syrian controlled territory would not be tolerated.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Israel tells UN to evacuate the northern Gaza Strip within 24 hours

Today, just before midnight local time, team leaders of the UN Office of the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs and the Department of Safety and Security in Gaza were informed by their liaison officers in the Israeli military that the entire population of Gaza north of Wadi Gaza should relocate to southern Gaza within the next 24 hours," Dujarric told Axios.

"This amounts to approximately 1.1 million people. The same order applied to all UN staff and those sheltered in UN facilities – including schools, health centers and clinics," Dujarric said.

The United Nations considers it impossible for such a movement to take place without devastating humanitarian consequences," Dujarric added. "The United Nations strongly appeals for any such order, if confirmed, to be rescinded avoiding what could transform what is already a tragedy into a calamitous situation."

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Someone please explain how the settlers holding a music festival on stolen land right next to the giant ghetto their government routinely attempts to liquidate are "innocent civilians".

Swap "Israeli-Palestinian" with "European-Native American" and it suddenly becomes incredibly obvious to many more people what's wrong in this situation. It's convenient to only pay lip service to opposing colonialism in situations where the colonisation is functionally complete and your control will never be threatened.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago

when the settlers is raving in the desert, they is vibe. sometime come the drop, sometime the paragliders

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago

Libs get pretty mad if you ask them to imagine if Russia reported that Ukrainian nazis beheaded Russian infants, they wouldn't release any photos of them, but Putin claimed he saw the photos, would they believe Russia there?

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

All the experts on the Ukraine conflict have now become Middle East experts.

Influencers. They go with whatever's the hottest "content".

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fetishization of freedom of speech has destroyed the Western ability to think critically.

The assumption is that the "accurate" views will trickle down and thus there's no need for you to think critically on your own.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

BREAKING: IDF discovers more than 40 rakes in settlements around the Gaza strip, strategically placed so that civilians would step on them and smack their heads. When will this terror end?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Britain will facilitate flights out of Israel to help its citizens leave the country, with the first such flight due to depart Tel Aviv later on Thursday, the foreign office said in a statement.

"Vulnerable British nationals will be prioritised for these flights. At this stage we will contact those who are eligible for the flights directly and British nationals should not make their way to the airport unless they are called," the foreign office statement said.

The flights would be open to British nationals and dual-nationals. Their dependents would also be eligible if travelling with a British national normally resident in the UK.

They would be commercial flights, with tickets costing 300 pounds ($369.12), the foreign office said.

Lol, you have to pay to be evacuated from Israel? Wtf? Most Latin American governments send their air force to save their people for free.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (12 children)

now I have an actual good reason to hate justin bieber

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Haha! You dumb TANKIE, you fool, you idiot!!! Do you not know the Palestinians did a bad thing?

Here, I'll present you my sources:

[WESTERN MEDIA]

[WESTERN MEDIA]

[WESTERN MEDIA]

[WESTERN MEDIA]

[WESTERN MEDIA]

[WESTERN MEDIA]

GOT YA HUH?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

80/20 rule but it's international-community-1international-community-2 being responsible for 80% of the evil on Earth while having 20% of the population.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Starting to think the IDF hasn't actually sent much armour to Gaza and has instead sent the vast majority of their armour to the northern border with Lebanon due to fears about Hezbollah.

Also think that any timescale we see them give for anything should be doubled or tripled.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

no more half measures, Hezbolluh waltuh

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Israeli warning to Hezbollah:

"IDF will destroy Damascus, target Syrian President Assad if Hezbollah joins war; US warships will support Israel in war."

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We are hitting comment levels that shouldn't even be possible.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

One of my sources has just sent me this plan found on the body of one of the Hamas terrorists involved in last saturday's attack.

This confirms that they deliberately targeted children, truly sickening shit. It's incomprehensible how you tankies can still support Palestine.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Israeli intelligence had no information about the preparation of an attack by the Palestinian Hamas movement, American and Israeli officials told The New York Times. They called it an intelligence failure.

The newspaper notes that Hamas managed to “suppress” Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system. It was overloaded with “a barrage of inexpensive but deadly missiles,” writes the NYT, specifying that the missile defense system itself is already ten years old.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The Governments of Spain and Ireland both officially protested against the decision by the European Union to block and suspend all financial aid funding to Palestine. Belgium was also not too happy about it but I can't find confirmation that they protested it in an official capacity.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just got off the phone with my relative, from what he can tell its gonna pop off on Friday after jumma

And it's gonna be wild cause there were cops in the mosque who seemed to be supportive

Here we go

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (15 children)

I think we're very close to a world war now. If, and it's a big if, this war broadens to include any of Israel's neighbors and then/or Iran, I think the cat's out of the fucking bag.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Even when they’re ostensibly pro-Palestine, western commentators can’t help but fall into the same trop a when talking about Hamas. Alice Trashfuture out of nowhere said “Hamas is going to go into these settlements and kill incriminately and the Israeli right get to say we’re going to bulldoze Gaza into the sea, like they always have been”. On the surface indicting Israel, but playing into the fucking both-sides narrative. Exhausting

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (8 children)

"South Africans are taking to the streets in support of Palestinians"

It's a 2 minute video, pretty good. The part about the guy that spent 10 years imprisoned on Robben Island for fighting against apartheid as a young man made me a bit emotional.

https://nitter.net/ajplus/status/1712551657312034837

https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1712551657312034837

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago

Got banned from a bunch of reddits, advocating for genocide and the death of Arabs is ok. Telling those advocates that they should kill themselves or that I will do it for them is however uncivil and a ban-able offense.

Strap me to a missile and fire me at the US.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I noticed my Insta feed is turning against Israel now

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (7 children)

This is really fucking it. This is turning into a battle for the middle east.

Where's the off ramp? Where's the opportunity to de-escalate? There is none. There is a very very real chance the US gets dragged into a war with Iran over this.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Israel is officially sponsored by Betterhelp, and is offering all its ~~viewers~~ citizens 6 months of free top tier online therapy with the code in the description below.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Mortar fire from Syria into the Israeli occupied Golan Heights

Israeli artillery is currently shelling Syrian territory - IDF

Israeli fighter jets target the vincinity of Quneitra, Syria

— Quneitra is where Hezbollah's tank battalions are located

https://twitter.com/idfonline/status/1711830875783004286

IDF forces respond with artillery fire and mortar fire at the source of the fire in Syrian territory

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago

I SALUTE MY COMRADES POSTING IN THE NEWS MEGATHREAD

I SALUTE THE FLAG 🇵🇸

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

🚨 The ONLY source for the "beheaded babies" claim is a pro-genocide member of a radical settler movement

Despite the claim of the discovery of beheaded Jewish babies being reported across the world, we still have no evidence for this except one man's claim: a settler named David Ben Zion.

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1712239999435853932

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (5 children)

BREAKING: Comrade Swift taylor-commie is reportedly on the ground in Lebanon. Will lead a contingent of swifties to liberate occupied Palestinian territory.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Iranian Foreign Minister: I congratulate the Palestinian people on Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, which is a response to Netanyahu’s war crimes

Iranian Foreign Minister: We are here to confirm the Islamic peoples and governments’ rejection of the continuation of war crimes against the Palestinians

Iranian Foreign Minister: The bombing of Gaza, displacement, and cutting off water are considered a war crime committed by the Zionist entity

Iranian Foreign Minister: I will hold talks with Lebanese officials regarding the situation in Gaza

Iranian Foreign Minister: With the continuation of war crimes against the Palestinians, all possibilities against the Zionist Regime, including new fronts, are possible in the region

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago

one of my sources from the Israel villages near Gaza has reported to me that Mrs. Hamas and Principal Hezbollah were in the closet making babies and he saw one of the babies and the baby looked at him

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Breht goes THERMONUCLEAR on the latest episode of Rev Left: https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/palestine-on-fire . This is a must-listen!

Breht if you're a lurker here, sankara-salute to you

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ex-Prime Minister of the zionist state Ehud Barak seen at Ben Gurion airport leaving the country.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So many US politicians are gung-ho about bombing Iran over all of this. They truly are all holden-bloodfeast

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yanis Varoufakis on (i assume) novara media asks "who will represent europe" in ukraine negotiations as an example of how europe has no figure that can represent it all and is entirely irrelevant. https://streamable.com/tma66l

Simple and easy way to get people to seriously consider how vassalised europe is now.

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