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[–] 133 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Both cars support oppressive dictators, but one is cheaper, supports CarPlay / Android auto, and has actually buttons for things.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Pooh bear is actually starting to look less oppressive in comparison these last 7 months tbh

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    To be fair, the CCP has already done a lot of armed crackdowns and disappearing. They’re in the phase where people are too scared to resist.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is what I hate. One is owned by a fuck cunt. The other is owned by china. Neither one are actually good options if you are not buying one because of their beliefs

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Other options exist; you don't have to buy either. Volkswagen Group, Audi, Renault, BMW, Fiat etc all make EVs in Europe. Hyundai & Kia also both make excellent EVs.

    Buying a Tesla is a choice these days. Nobody trips and falls into Tesla ownership. And although those cheap Chinese manufacturers look mighty tempting, they're not the only alternative out there.

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    [–] 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Good thing the Tesla board voted to give Elmo all those billions to make him stay, because for a second there was an actual risk that Tesla could survive as a company without Elmo, but now they kept him and made sure they'll all go down off that cliff.

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    [–] 62 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Let me guess, the stock did go up?

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  • [–] 73 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Today down 1.37%, but up 7.14% overall for the week.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm sure the free market knows what's right /s

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How tf does someone with a bajillion dollars look like a pile of wet garbage bags at 54? Aren't they all supposed to be using lotions made from aardvark assholes and incubus foreskins to maintain immortality?

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Come on Canada, let us have cheap BYD, fuck the US economy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    nah, forget about them

    let us have economical cars because we don't need these massive expensive things just to go 5km to get a load of groceries

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Let us have safe bicycle infrastructure do that we can bike to those stores, how about that? And with that, add mixed constructions in the suburbs so that people have small local stores around.

    A bike costs a fraction of a car

    Bicycle infrastructure building and maintenance costs a fraction of that for cars

    Bicycles don't emit CO2. And for those wise asses saying that the cyclist does, it's a fraction of a fraction of a car because you're not lugging 2 tonnes of stell around to transport you and a bottle of milk.

    Cycling infrastructure is much more efficient, you can push a shit tonne more people over the same road if you don't need big ass cars. Yes, even your Mercedes smart car is I ass compared to a bicycle

    It creates much much less pollution from tire dust

    It's much safer, bicycles kill only a fraction of the people that cars kill all year round

    It's healthier, people do exercise not because they went to the gym, but all day every day with their bikes

    It cuts the noise pollution

    It's cheaper because no taxes, no gas needed, maintenance is a fraction of that of a car.

    It's way less wasteful

    It lowers aggression. Though it may or may not exist, I've never heard of bicycle road rage

    Need more?

    Less cars is less parking spaces. Parking spaces get cities barely any taxable income. Instead of these ugly ass concrete wasteland parkitsoaces you can now have restaurants with outside patios which can be taxed. Couple that with the cheaper infrastructure, and that alone should be an obvious reason as to why do this

    It's really not that much slower. For typical short trips, bicycles usually only add some 10-20% of required time to your trip.

    For any trip over say, 5-10 kilometers, use good public transportation

    For those once in a lifetime trips where you actually need a car because you need to transport something huge, use one of those Evo rent-a-car.

    In the Netherlands, a huge amount of people don't have a car. Not because they can't (they totally can) but because it's stupid to have one. You can go everywhere by bike, you can jump with your bike in a train when needed to go further, cars are expensive and bad for everyone, why even have one?

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    [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Not one more penny for this Nazi!

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't get how a company is losing this much in multiple countries yet is still operating?

    Like if they can lose this much and still be operating and investments not tanking, would it follow that they can pay better wages and benefits?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The US is corrupt enough at this point the only thing massive corporations have to do to survive is be massive.

    Many companies that never even have turned a consistent profit are major players in the US economy.

    The idea of valuing actual market competition is a distraction conservatives point to as a cool aesthetic and it has little to do with the economic reality of the US. So long as the right people are in power a dictatorship is totally acceptable to conservatives by and large and the inevitable end result of that as we are seeing are stunning displays of incompetency at the highest levels of power.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My commute is about 20 miles a day. Charging level 1 at work is enough unless I go out on the weekend. My Nissan Leaf has been good enough for me. And it is neither Tesla nor Chinese.

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    [–] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I bought byd stock. It keeps going down. I will never understand investing

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    I'm genuinely surprised people be ok with BYD on Lemmy. It's authoritarian spyware, period. There are more options than these two - ww don't have to choose the lesser evil.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Why would I give a fucking shit? Every new car is a piece of shit spy ware device that collects and sells your data. Honestly, I'd rather china have my data than a fucking capitalist company or America. At least china won't do anything to me, our government is more of a threat to the average American than china is.

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Quick Elon, buy the President of Europe! /s

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Any non-cunts in the EV manufacturing space? Or is that a prerequisite?

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I don't think Musk much cares or ever did. The goal was to milk tesla for every last dime.

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Tesla will be bankrupt in 2 years.

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