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[-] [email protected] 44 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You know what the worst kind of thing is with WW2 stuff? Being into historical tanks and planes while still believing that war is pretty shitty and the Nazis didn't lose hard enough.

Yes, I think a tank is a cool engineering achievement. No, I don't want to talk to you about how war crimes are actually neat. No, I don't want to help you beat up minorities.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

Exactly. WW2 is the last great period of analog engineering.

It's also the only time racists had a technological edge going into a fight so they cling to the idea they had a chance. The overlap is frustrating. I just want to learn more about analog circuits that can be shot out of a cannon!

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's more like Germany had a test run in Spain where they got to try out all of their new toys and strategies in a live environment. While everyone else was still planning for a new round of trench warfare.

I think it's funny that everyone thinks that Germany had the most advanced tech they didn't. They did have the most advanced presses and they did have more refined metallurgical processes. But that's because they didn't have any good local sources of iron. Just a lot of magnesium and coal.

Tldr being really good in a few Fields out of 30 odd Fields required for warfare does not make you the most technologically advanced. But it does make your industry make fewer tanks with thicker armor.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Ah the proximity fuse! Another incredible feat IMO, a radar shot out of a cannon...

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Oh yes, crazy when you think about it. Nowadays you'd just put some semiconductors, pot it all in epoxy... but they neither had modern epoxy nor transistors.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

When talking about WW2 planes, I immediately remember the ~~cardboard~~ SHARPEST THOUSAND FOLD STEEL Zero

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

Same. I do enjoy WW2 tanks, and yes, that includes German ones. And yes, I think the Tiger H1 is pretty neat.

But so was PzIV F.
And so was the Sherman.
Fw190 was an excellent plane.
So was the Hawker Hurricane.
And the F4U.

I'm in it for the tech, not the fascist stuff. It's just that it's easier to find info on the German hardware, as long as one is able to separate facts from propaganda.

"It took 5 Shermans to take out a tiger".. ..Yes. Took 5 shermans to take out anything else too. Because that was the usual operational unit.

t34 was junk, tho.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

"It took 5 Shermans to take out a tiger".. ..Yes. Took 5 shermans to take out anything else too. Because that was the usual operational unit.

This also demonstrates the huge manufacturing deficeit on the part of the axis

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, one aspect of the German military after the fall of France is how depleted they were both in manpower and hardware. Sure, they were still a powerful army, but nowhere near their full operational strength as defined in doctrine.

If Germany were able to magically reinforce up to full strength, the outcome could have been very different (on land at least. Navy was severely lacking in most respects, even before 1939). Their manufacturing were only barely able to compete with UK and her allies at the beginning of the war, let alone USSR and the US once they entered the war.

And manpower surges during the war came at the cost of industry. On a surface level it might seem like Germany was great at reducing unemployment and all that, but the truth is that it was an act of desperation - the war economy was bleeding Germany of any and all capable adult (and many who weren't even adult), and this is obviously not something that can be sustained in the long run. And especially concerning for russia these days is what happens when you try to turn a war economy into a civilian economy - It's going to be a disaster. War economy uncurs a massive debt, financially and otherwise, and one day that debt needs to be paid.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, the state of the kriegsmarine is the primary reason operation sealion was so laughably stupid. There was no possible way they were ever going to make it across the channel with the world's most powerful and second most powerful navies defending it.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

On the contrary, the T-34 was a feat of engineering, it was just forced by circumstances to optimize to different priorities. There's a reason Guderian considered directly copying them - and why the Panther looks the way it does. Hell, there's an argument to be made the whole T-series until Armata was just continuing the development of the T-34.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Or the V1 and the V2 what an engineering feat, especially the V2. But yeah, my skin crawls when I see the Nazis, they were just like evil children X 100.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What if I list all the other tanks as well (I play an unhealthy amount of War Thunder)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

I can do that for the airframes, and most the boats fuck ground.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I play all three now and then. Mostly ground, though. I grinded through German aviation all the way mostly to have supporting aircraft for ground battles. And I boat around in Naval to grind SL.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

For clarity, I was saying that I have played All Nations to at least 4.0 however, Germany is my main France is my secondary and USA is the third most played in my roster.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Germany main, here. US to about 8.0, USSR to about 7.0

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I have a neighbor who claims to be a historian. specialized in civil war history. specifically the south.

unsurprisingly they voted for an orange bastard.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Panzer 1, Panzer 2, Panzer 3...

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's easy to filter out the heeraboos by probing which B-word they use to describe German land doctrine.

Bewegungskrieg (I may have spelled that incorrectly) was the actual doctrine, and yes, it was an innovative precursor to today's land-air battle. Blitzkrieg was just a slang.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

"I have never used the word Blitzkrieg, because it is a completely stupid word" - the little man with the weird moustache

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I think the little mustache weirdo was among those who actually used it. In other words, probably without shocking anyone, Hitler was a Heeraboo

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

You spelled it right :)

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Today I learned I'm a heeraboo. Is blitzkrieg really just slang for bewegungskrieg?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

History majors sounds off

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

✋

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Thank you for your service, and I'm sorry for all the repeats

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Krg.md-53, Hf-klg.8, FS-3 Rgh. ...

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

"Aber hört Mal zu Alter, der Leopard ist immer noch.." 😑

[-] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

Tigers, Leopards, Mice.

What? I'm at the zoo, actually.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Panthers, Elephants, Rats

They have every thing here!

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