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[-] [email protected] 166 points 1 week ago

Actually yes. They did vote for this.

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[-] [email protected] 96 points 1 week ago

People should be angry and upset about this. Similar to the story some weeks ago where residents of a small Texan town (seemingly rightfully at first) complained about the noise pollution of a Bitcoin mining farm. Turns out they all voted Republican. It's always "we'll deregulate and bring business" just that the modern businesses they bring are a net negative for the area except for the politicians and the companies. Is almost like these regulations were there for a reason.

Both Bitcoin and AI are stupid VC money that only matters in a very small bubble, and they're not business in a traditional sense. They just leech resources at their compute centers to make the people who own them and live far away rich. I pity all this who didn't vote for this kind of bullshit. The rest, enjoy your shorter showers and everything else! But remember, it's the Dems who want to dictate stuff like water usage. Not in my free country! Oh, the water is gone because a greedy Corp stole it? That's fine, one day it's my turn to be rich.

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[-] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago

This but just the Microsoft logo lol

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

"Since Microsoft dropped its DEI initiatives, it's good actually!"

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[-] [email protected] 78 points 1 week ago

It's always a good idea to put computer centers in areas with water scarcity. /s

[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago

In hot areas with water scarcity.

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[-] [email protected] 65 points 1 week ago

If AI centres need so much cooling, why are they building them in Texas in the first place?

[-] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago

Lack of regulations of all kinds

[-] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago

On a suspicion, I had a quick look, and of course there's also tax incentives, apparently.

Love this quote "Texas had long been a preferred location for large data centers given its central location, economic climate, reliable electric grid, historically low occurrences of natural disasters, educated workforce and pro-business environment." :|

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

pro-business environment.

Found the reason

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the Texas electric grid is as reliable as a cardboard shed in a hurricane.

Speaking of hurricanes, "historically low occurrence of natural disasters" is also the exact opposite of reality and rapidly getting WORSE.

The real reason is of course corrupt politicians in charge of a kakistocratic government that'll let them get away with anything up to and including mass murder while throwing money at them.

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[-] [email protected] 64 points 1 week ago

During the 1986-1992 California drought, we were informed in the San Francisco Bay Area region that water service prices were going to go up unless we conserved strictly.

They said this to a bunch of California hippies, on account that we were in California.

So we way got on board. We stopped flushing. Any water that was rendered non-potable we'd repurpose for watering plants or filter it for second use. Japanese naval baths (weird tiny bowl seats and a sponge, used in the Imperial Navy, WWII) got popular so people were keeping clean via a tenth of normal water usage.

We conserved too much according to the water department and they raised prices anyway.

This sparked some investigations (by journalists, since investigative journalism was still a thing then) and found that agriculture got water for much cheaper, and was still using it once before flushing it (now laced with pesticides) out into the sea. Needless to say, we conservationist hippies were livid.

It's still a problem, as the utility companies routinely lobby our congress and governor (and Newsom may know how to be a California liberal, but he's still a Dianne-Feinstein-style ( / Nancy-Pelosi style) money-grubbing neoliberal. He just has game, especially when opposed to far right idiots. The setup in Monster's Inc (power crisis in a city where scream is the principal power source) was inspired by the Enron fraud affair leading to rolling blackouts and Texas siphoning off California's general fund. And our governments from Schwarzenegger (who I will never forgive) to Newsom are in the pocket of PG&E. (I'm on SMUD now and my bill is conspicuously less.)

Also, according to Climate Town, the Sauds own a lot of California farmland, where they grow alfalfa to import to the mid-east to feed their cows. Alfalfa crops are one of the most water hungry, and is one of the big ways beef is driving the climate crisis (and towards a massive food shortage and global famine!) and the water tables, to which they have access and first-tap rights, gets lower every year. 🕙

So I suspect that the Texas AI centers are getting water at a cheaper rate than private homes. Maybe it's something to get active about.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago

elon is currrently. using the aquifer drinking water under memphis to cool grok. he’s also powering it with generators and smogging out the city.

please do not use grok.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I don't care, nothing will come inbetween me and my boi, mecha hitler!

/j if that wasn't obvious

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[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

Texan here: we barely get to vote on shit at all. And they're gerrymandering to make it even harder.

I'd call Texas a clown car but it's too big to qualify.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago

Yes, Texas did vote for that. Haha, Red states suffering is funny.

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago

incomprehensible text about being mechahitler

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

I don't understand why AI data centers would CONSUME water. Once they fill up their chiller loops, then... that's it, right?

It's hard for me to imagine them relying on the temperature of the incoming water, and dumping all the warm water as discharge.

[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago

They're probably using cooling towers, which cool through evaporation. They should be using reclaimed though.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

As long as it is cheaper to buy water, then evaporate it, big firms will continue to do so.

With a COP of around 15 and up it is difficult to argue with the economy of this.

Local regulation would be required, but that would need politicians who don't suck.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

I worked 10 years at a data center, all that water is recycled - it is very carefully chemically balanced so as to not corrode the pipes and pumps, no they do not use it once and dump it out.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

From what I've seen it's "not worth the effort or expense" to reuse the water. Some of them literally just send tap water through the cooling loops and then into the sewer drains

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

The priorities are completly screwd up. If they found a way to power the AI datacenters with humans, Matrix style, would they ask Texans to sacrifice their first borns to do so?

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Narrator voice: in fact that is what they did

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[-] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

Why the fuck do they alway pick the driest places to use the most water. Fucking morons

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I always rant about tech moving to Austin.

They need low heat, reliable power, cheap / fast internet, and an abundance of water.

Texas is literally none of those things.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

We have low regulations though. Which is why they do it.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago

Stoopid Texans. You've got the guns, start using the things. If they need cooling, maybe aerate a few blocks of servers for them.

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago

its funny how these AI centers are mostly if not all in red states only, simply because they know the legislation wont do anything, and encourage them anyways, plus the resident that leans right are less likely to make a big fuss over it.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

So not only are Corporations... People

Now they are more important people than regular citizens?

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Don’t feed the people but we feed the machines

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Why aren’t they building these things underground or repurposing old mines in areas where geothermal is plentiful for power and aquifers are stable, instead of in water-poor, temperature extreme places like Texas and KY? …Oh right, poverty and red voters. Better to exploit and damage then have some upfront cost and long-term stability. I forget.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Building anything like this is seen as a jobs creator. Data center companies then pass the proposal around to municipalities and ask them who want jobs. These places then bend over backwards to offer tax incentives, fast permitting, etc. with no regard to whether their location can actually support the building.

So of course they get built in the most corrupt places.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

My country is int he middle of a data center boom, fuelled by the usual royal and political, uh, inputs. We also have seasonal droughts, which often result in water rationing and angry people upset at the mismanagement of our resources. Wonder which will give way first.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

You should complain whenever million gallons of water are wasted by corporations seeking profits or by governments for their shady operations. Not just when it's about AI.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

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