EU opens door to funding nuclear energy in next budget (www.reuters.com)

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BRUSSELS, July 17 (Reuters) - The European Commission wants to open up part of its proposed 2 trillion euro EU budget for 2028-2034 to nuclear energy, a move likely to divide the bloc's member states, which Germany immediately rejected.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Awesome, solar and wind are way too predictable anyways...

Instead of investing in sodium-ion batteries, Hydrogen generators and -converters and plastering everything with photovoltaik...

They invest in Chernobyl-shit with no permanent storage for the waste anywhere to be found?

German

Ja geil, weil Solar und Wind halt auch viel zu ungefährlich und kalkulierbar sind.

Anstatt Natrium-Ionen-Batterien zu fördern, Wasserstoffhydrolse und -umwandlungsanlagen zu bauen und alles voller günstiger Solaranlagen zu ballern...

Investieren die lieber in Chernobyl-Scheiß, für den es immer noch kein Endlager gibt???

[+] [email protected] -6 points 4 days ago

Fuck off Germany!

Your "Atomkraft? Nein danke!" movement fucked us all on the fossil fuel shit for decades, let's give nuke power a chance again!

We will never get rid of the baseload power usage, so let's use the cleanest stable power generation we have for it, nuclear power.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'll be happy with the renewables plus battery storage now, while you continue to burn fossile fuel while you wait for 25 years to complete building your nuclear reactors and pay tripple of what you planned 🤷

Promoting nuclear power at this point in time is a psyop by the fossile fuel industry 🤦

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago

The main reason as to why it takes so long to build nuclear powerplants are legal, the actual construction takes 6-8 years.

25 years is an artificial span of time that easily can be slashed by at least half.

You are acting like renewables and batteries have zero problems.

Battery storage does have problems, batteries are consumed through charge/discharge cycles, they will need to be rebuilt continuously as they are being used. They can also only provide DC, and will need inverters to produce AC, adding complexity.

Renewables also have problems, you can't recycle wind power plants, they are made our of glass fiber, and are crushed and buried when they are torn down, solar panels loose efficiency over time, hydro power decimate local fish populations, and so on.

Now, I am not blind to the fact that renewables are getting better and better, but fact of the matter is that we have for decades been told that renewables are just a few years away from taking over, and it has not happened, meanwhile countries has closed the Evil(TM) nuclear powerplants they had, but kept the fossil fueled plants they have and people have cheered!

People have cheered the closing of plants that require one train car of fuel every few years, while keeping plats that require kilometer long trains of coal every single day.

That is insanity!

That is why I don't trust the anti nuke crowd.

One of my suggestions is the following:

The EU funds a simple drop in reactor package that can be put into an existing fossil plant, and puts a plan up for modifying every fossil plant to be a nuclear plant.

Then we don't need to deal with as much legal paperwork, nor do we need to build a completely new facility, or build new power infrastructure.

What about the nuclear waste I hear you ask.

Well, that is a fair question, that require careful consideration and planning, it isn't as if there is a place with a stable bedrock, stable political climate and has a well educated workforce, oh wait! My home country of Sweden has everything needed!

We have a very stable bedrock, stable political climate and have experience in building underground facilities and nuclear physics. I have for a long time believed that we in Sweden should shoulder the responsibility of dealing with nuclear waste from the global community, I believe it would even be profitable to do so in the long run.

Now, I am aware that nuclear power won't last for ever, I see it as a transition technology that will give us about 100-200 years of breathing room to get a dynamic power grid and renewables going.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Eh? Renewables are taking over as we speak. Under what rock are you living? Nuclear power plants are outdated, expensive and totally unecessary 🤷

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

So far, I haven't seen renewables actually taking over the baseload for a long period of time, for dynamic demand, renewables are brilliant, but that is not what we are talking about.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

They already do in many countries, please update yourself. The last 5 years saw massive improvements in this field.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Since you have the data, please share your sources, if renewables have completely been able to run a country for an entire year, that is indeed a huge achivement!

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago

Yes, there are many countries that achive that (if you include hydropower).

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Yet you don't include any source, interesting

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Germany got the jitters from an event that can't happen even remotely similarly in their country. A sustained investment in nuclear power would've paved the way for renewables and rendered fossil fuels worthless. Now we're here...

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Renewable energy could also use financial incentives

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