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Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn't want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago
[-] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago

Because Democratic leadership is aware that Republicans aren't their actual enemies, and a ton of them are also on the list.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

The democrats are aware that their names are on the list and they’re the only ones that will be held accountable for it. The republicans will hold witch burnings while completely ignoring their own member’s names on the list.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

will be held accountable for it

sweet summer child

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Maybe the idea that Epstein was at the head of a global network of paedophiles, involved with trafficking young girls and boys for the likes of Trump, Clinton and Gates is fanciful.

Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes.

The idea that this is all some Mossad psi-op to influence US politics is also bonkers and predictably falls into classic anti-semitic tropes.

Is it tittilating and fun to speculate about with people online? Sure. Does social and traditional media love a good juicy story like this and will continue to give it play and play? Absolutely.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

No idea, but I read the title like it was the setup to a joke.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

The Aristocrats!

[-] [email protected] 141 points 3 days ago

For the same reason republicans won't: They're on the list, their friends are on the list and their donors are on the list.

[-] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago

The last point is the most important.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

The difference is the democrats didn’t campaign on the promise of releasing it. And MAGAs believed him for some weird reason

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[-] [email protected] 219 points 4 days ago

I assume because there were some high profile dems on the list.

[-] [email protected] 124 points 4 days ago

Yup. Everybody's just going to pretend nothing ever happened and move on.

Just to be clear, that is not what should happen

[-] [email protected] 84 points 3 days ago

Even if it comes to light, I have doubts anything will come of it. Look what happened with the Panama papers. Basically only Iceland did anything about it.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

Australia acted on it for what it’s worth.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

they bombed a reporter over it.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Iceland had the highest profile result so perhaps it may seem that way, but many countries investigated and prosecuted individuals. In addition, it caused the entire global financial system to redouble AML efforts.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

probably some hollywood execs, and AIPAC people too.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Propriety, ironically.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

As non-American, the reason I think that Democrats didn't release the list was that not only were some Democrats and their donors on it, they knew that they would be crucified by Republicans and Americans for it. The also knew that at the same time all the Republicans and their donors on the list would be let off because laws, morality, ethics are only ever to be used to oppress the poor and non-whites or to combat Democratic politicians. Do you think Trump would ever have made it to President as a Democrat? There is a reason he switched to become a Republican.

[-] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The obvious is that Dems are on the list too. Which is undoubtedly true. Even more importantly than that donors. But the fact that Merrick Garland was involved and he'd never to anything to make Trump look bad ever should also be remembered.

[-] [email protected] 102 points 3 days ago

Because most of their big money donors are also on the list.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

If someone hands you $50,000 a year with no questions every year, it’s hard to say no when they squeeze your hand and ask you to reconsider releasing it.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Especially if even if you released it it probably wouldn't change literally a single thing.

[-] [email protected] 97 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
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[-] [email protected] 68 points 3 days ago

Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure he was an asset and Ghislaine is the agent. Both based in who’s alive, and whose father’s funeral was attended by multiple former heads of Mossad.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

This is the part that should be brought up always. MOSSAD ATTENDED STATE FUNERAL

it's all a game. They use the vulnerable as currency and bargaining chips. Literal evil.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite conspiracy on the Citadel.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

because includes alot of politicians, donors, and other world leaders, movie executives. just like the panama papers got swept under the carpet, it including tons of rich people.

Gates, musk, trump, hawkings, diddy,,,etc.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Subsequent to the Panama Papers, there were arrests and financial seizures in many of the named countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers?wprov=sfti1#Recovered_money

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Let's not forget the assassination of one of the reporters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia#Death

[-] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago

Because Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin?

[-] [email protected] 37 points 4 days ago

Simple, they have more to loose than what they stand to gain.

There are almost certainly several high profile democrats on the list, they don't want to expose themselves so they are blocking the release.

But ok, let's assume that the list has zero democrats on it, that doesn't matter at this point, since it will be extremely difficult to find someone who the public can actually trust to give them real unbiased data.

The republicans knows that they can just lie and say that anyone in the democrats is on the list and just about everyone of their supporters will believe them

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

probably exposes alot of donors/megadonors to congress.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

guilty by association.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

Two sides of the same coin. The Dems claim to protect the underdog, the Reps claim to oppress the underdog. Each identity politics appeals to a different demographic.

The thing that's the same between them is that they ALWAYS protect capital.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

What would they have had to gain? Fox news would just pivot around it and move on. Trump was already a convicted rapist, tons of catholic priests are forgiven among their community for child rape, so it's not hard to imagine Trump walking away clean from the whole thing.

Meanwhile, dems probably had a couple big donors to lose and possibly a former president. Sounds like a bad trade when the whole party's MO is to keep their hands clean and never play dirty.

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[-] [email protected] -4 points 2 days ago

Your premise is wrong. The Democrats never had the list, and the Republicans don't have it now. The people who actually have that list, and those documents, have names. Use those names. Don't trick yourself into believing that some random congressperson has access or authority.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There are probably highly placed people in both parties on the list. Is this saying "SeE, tHeY'rE BoTh ThE sAmE!!!"? No, it's saying both have bad actors in them. Neither party has a claim to being morally pristine, because that would be stupid and so is insisting that they should.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

it's almost like humans, in general, are huge corrupt pieces of shit when they become wealthy and powerful.

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