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Thanks to the "you need to buy a new PC for running W11" bullshit, scammers are selling ewaste at full price to inexperienced people (feddit.it)

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And from the glowing reviews it's clear that

W11 doesn't actually need a new PC to run and the limitations are completely artificial
For many people, a ten years old PC is fast enough (or even faster than a brand new Intel N100 PC that is officially W11 compatible). They won't even notice that's something from 2015, as long it has a shiny new case, enough RAM and SSD
Amazon doesn't care that the PC comes with pirated software, or that someone is scamming their customers, as long they get their 15% cut from marketplace sales (the cost of a genuine license of W11 pro and office exceeds the price of those ewaste specials)

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Folks, the sooner you dip your toe into Linux the better. Don't let these mega corps tell you how to use your own stuff. Buck the trends and break free.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 19 hours ago

Those are newer than the CPU I'm typing this on, they're not waste

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

They dont officially support windows 11 and the avg users are not going to know any better. It's a grey area scam. They're not worth $400 at all.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago

Those aren't eWaste. Those are Mint machines.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

Not worth hundreds though

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

I keep repeating this, my i5 750 (2009 pc), oc at 3.6ghz can do any fucking thing most people do with their computer. With a 1060 gpu, It plays like 90% of the games , I've made pro audio and video projects on it, even a small vr game.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah no, calling cap on that.

It'll run most indies and triple A game from 6-7y ago.

It'll be a real bottle neck for recent games. And especially for the only game that truly matters, rimworld.

I am running an n150 on a secondary mini pc. On paper it's twice as fast as your cpu. It drives me crazy how slow it can be at times when running multiple tabs or apps at the same time. You're delusional if you think your cpu is still up to snuff in 2025

[-] [email protected] 3 points 47 minutes ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago)

I think people tend to forget that the vast majority of people don't even play games on their computer. Like when I mention this computer, I always get "Nah, this wont play Elden Ring at 4k 120 fps, just throw it to the garbage". But my parents, sisters, most of my friends dont give a damn about gaming. And this computer is definitely fast enough for all my personal gaming needs.

Another thing, is that gaming streaming services are now super efficient. I could literally play Doom the Dark Age at 1080p on Xbox Game pass with this PC, and I sometimes subscribe to PS+ to play Playstation exclusives.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

Fr. I have an OCd 2500k and it was a bottleneck many years ago. Pre Sandy CPUs.... Not a chance it's not a bottleneck.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

... a ten years old PC is...

... that's something from 2015, ...

Oh my! 2015 was 10 years ago?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Aa of July 1st we're closer to 2050 than 2000

Edit: 2020 -> 2000, derp

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

You sure about that? Maybe you meant 2000 not 2020? Regardless, not sure how to feel about that…

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago

It's Amazon. Of course it's a scam. I always tell elderly people it's a criminal enterprise scamming old people when they ask about it.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

This is so wrong

Windows 11 requires 8th gen Intel or newer. You can bypass it but you lose official support and more importantly things will break down the line.
Those listing are not what I would call "full price"
You can buy a old 8th gen Intel system off of eBay for less than 100€

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah, those are basically Mini PC prices. The CPU alone used to cost more than that.

The specs look perfectly adequate (I'm still running very similar for daily use), and 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM should keep you going no matter how many tabs you open or how bloated your PC gets.

Personally I'd get a new Ryzen Mini PC for that kind of money just for the form factor, but they're hardly a scam. The main issue is that the crowd this is aimed at have very little use for a PC these days.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

Oh nooooo, however will I do the needful without Microsoft's world famous blue ribbon customer support.

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago

Switch to Linux and keep using your current computer. Tell Microsoft to pound sand.

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago

I dont think the people buying these even know what linux is.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Stop purchasing from Amazon

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

If you think that 210€ is full price for a pc then you require some research assistance.

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[-] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago

It's not actually eWaste you can buy a TPM chip for it, or ya know Linux.

[-] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Windows 11 doesn't actually need the tpm. They just check: "oh it's Intel 6th gen, it's trash from the last decade, sorry incompatible ewaste, buy a new one"

Intel 6th gen + tpm chip = still "incompatible"

Their marketing told us the lie "it needs tpm and secure boot" but they actually check if it has introduced to the market after 2018 or not

In those units the scammer patched the install image to install without the check. Who buys this will get a surprise when in the next months the next update comes out and refuse to install (25h1?)

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile I am waiting to buy a good "unsupported by Windows 11" PC cheap this October.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Thrift stores and pawn shops have some great deals on PC's that will run Linux just fine if you're concerned about Amazon prices and e-waste. If you have a local radio-shack-like mom and pop shop, those are treasure hunts and you're guaranteed to find gold. Encourage folks to go local.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Could you explain why you consider these overpriced/scam? If those use new parts and come with warranty, at least the top one, seems fine. Can you do a breakdown of what it should cost?

My Windows PC has i5-6500 in it and I definitely don't consider it e-waste.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I call it ewaste because it is coming from that. Banks and corporations change computers every 3-5 years because accounting love to lease rather to buy

Those computers go to ewaste centers, then some not honest sellers take the components (that usually were left on 24/7 because in offices nobody bothers to turn off computers) and put them in brand new cases

That's why is a scam, selling old stuff that came from an ewaste center as brand new

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

So keeping it from being actual ewaste it's now going to be used by someone... That seems like a good thing.

The only downside I see is that it isn't disclosed

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

My gripe with that is that the seller is scamming inexperienced people, they think that they are buying a brand new PC while instead it's not

(The fact that a 400 euro PC includes 600 euro of software licenses should ring a bell about the legitimacy to the buyer, though)

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

They don't support Windows 11

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