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The Gulf Stream plays a significant role in maintaining the climate of the US East Coast and Western Europe. "We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years." The full study is Here

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[–] [email protected] 185 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Everywhere I look everything is getting fucked to death. Insects, fish, entire ecosystems, entire climates, entire regions near the equator, all FUCKED.

Then my uncle says “how come it’s getting colder some places, I thought the globe was supposed to be warming! Hahahah”

At least he can arguably not give a fuck. He is rich and has no kids. I don’t get why the poors on the right side of the spectrum are so willing to parrot this idiotic bullshit though, don’t they realize their 600 even-poorer grandchildren are FUCKED?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don’t care because either:
a) they’ll be dead
b) everything will be fine in heaven
c) both?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

don’t they realize their 600 even-poorer grandchildren are FUCKED?

No. The effort to make that unclear has been very successful.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People with poor education are poor at spotting idiotic bullshit. Also there are other factors why people believe things. We aren't that rational.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

It jives with how they see Trump as a "Godly, Christian man." According to recent polls, they view him as more "Christian" than Mike fucking Pence.

I wonder if part of it is that belief begets belief? They believe in Trump because he believes so deeply in himself and they identify with that?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, but think of the profits.

Where are those profits going? Definitely not to you, that's for sure.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So we suiciding or what? Only slightly kidding.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a very religious person until my 20s, I have brought up this idea to multiple people lol. My depressed-ass brain was like, why tf don't we just rush to heaven instead?...

I can ASSURE you, the "it'll all be 100% fine when you're dead" has killed so many people's drives to be a good person.

The planet is fucked because this 40% of USA voters don't give one flying fuck about future generations.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember a case where a mother killed her two young kids because she wanted them to go to heaven. Her reasoning was that if they grew up and became sinners they would end up in hell. By murdering them before they knew what sin was she actually saved them. Thing is, if you believe in that shit then what she did really makes perfect sense.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That’s what I’ll ask christian mothers from now on.

“If you really love your children how come you didn’t smother them immediately after their baptism?”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

as a species, pretty much.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

But who'll think of the poor investors? /s

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago

Robust Weakening of the Gulf Stream During the Past Four Decades Observed in the Florida Straits https://doi.org/10.1029/2023GL105170

Plain Language Summary

The Gulf Stream is a major ocean current located off the East Coast of the United States. It carries a tremendous amount of seawater and along with it heat, carbon, and other ocean constituents. Because of this, the Gulf Stream plays an important role in weather and climate, influencing phenomena as seemingly unrelated as sea level along coastal Florida and temperature and precipitation over continental Europe. Given how important this ocean current is to science and society, scientists have tried to determine whether the Gulf Stream has undergone significant changes under global warming, but so far, they have not reached a firm conclusion. Here we report our effort to synthesize available Gulf Stream observations from the Florida Straits near Miami, and to assess whether and how the Gulf Stream transport there has changed since 1982. We conclude with a high degree of confidence that Gulf Stream transport has indeed slowed by about 4% in the past 40 years, the first conclusive, unambiguous observational evidence that this ocean current has undergone significant change in the recent past. Future studies should try to identify the cause of this change.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

What will be the consequences to this?

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rise in sea levels on the east coast, reduced rain in the east coast, stronger storms, and more precipitation in Europe and the tropics. According to wiki.

I think it'll also make some areas cold as fuck and probably heat up the gulf.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Western Europe will get pretty fucked without it, We're much further north than people realise. The Netherlands is further north than Calgary, Canada

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The consequences are unpredictable. More extreme weather is about the only certainty.

The energy of the heat transfer will not just be missing in Europe. It'll also be in excess in the Caribbeans, perhaps creating stronger winds worldwide.

Imagine a house with water radiators, where you turn off the circulation pump while keeping the furnace on full blast. It's gotta go somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Read the article in my above comment. it could throw Europe into another ice age, and cause mass starvation. Not to mention the AMOC feeds plankton which is the basis for all of sea life food-webs and so the ripples of this could be very very vast.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Britain and Iceland are utterly fucked.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The good news is that Iceland won't have to go around apologizing for its name anymore.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Greenland still will be inaccurate though, unless the Arctic decides to just melt.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

East coast of Canada and US will become arid. Caribbean will become hotter and storms will become more severe. Scotland, Ireland, Iceland, and Norway will be substantially colder (compare latitude of UK with Northern Canada) and with less precipitation. Basically, everywhere that relies on warm tropical moist air currents will drastically change.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every fossil fuel executive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

gonna need some serious convincing not to put every single person who works for a fossil fuel company in the pit too tbh

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I welcome the decrease in temperature, but it would be great if it weren't connected to the earth being irreparably fucked. One winter at -40 (C or F) and people will start moving south and I might actually be able to afford to buy a house.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

why doesn't the LAZY gulf stream just work harder??

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was hoping the silver lining of climate change would be hotter weather here in Ireland. Shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I mean it will wind up warmer than Siberia is now.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

How many times are we going to learn this for the first time?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’ll they do with all those jets they made then?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Have a communist perspective!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Oh well, we had a good innings there didn't we?

Still, I'm in my 40s now, so if it doesn't completely collapse for about 50 years or so I'm pretty sure I won't have to worry about it.

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