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[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago

So we're finally getting high speed rail? anakin-padme-2

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Or invest in semiconductor manufacturing, and manufacturing in general?

[-] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago

Oh shit is America going to start building infrastructure

[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

well then it's not very much like China is it.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

You stupid tankies have forgotten that my crystals have revealed China is fascist

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Only a Russian bot would question the crystals

[-] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago

Americans doing American things americanally, in America

American media: damn those orientals

[-] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

a bunch of asians????

[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago

Both push a muscular patriotism, are obsessed with manufacturing and hostile to immigrants. Both want a country where ethnic minorities are expected to bow to the dominant group

So many liberals keep calling China racist, but they never give any real evidence. This article just links to another article about how racist the MAGA movement is, yeah, I know Trumpers are racist, but you just said China was exactly the same and didn't back it up at all? They didn't even mention Uyghurs, surprisingly.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

The article does this on more than one occasion. I think it’s a GPT article. The paragraph about how China supposedly “punishes neighbors after mere slights” includes an article as evidence that states trade with Japan resumed

but also a funny bit about how when reached for comment a Chinese office refused to comment over the phone and told them to fucking fax the questions. The fax was ignored.

[-] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is indeed much that America can learn from China. But perhaps the most important lesson is to stay true to who we are as a nation. That’s what China did. It adopted aspects of the American way that would make it strong again, while sticking to its core system of Communist Party political domination and heavy state involvement in everything. And it has been spectacularly successful. Trump’s America, on the other hand, is beginning to seem as if it’s taking cues from China’s political model. That’s not who we are.<

I think this is my favourite part

[-] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

it worked well for China....anyways we dont actually want that.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Of course not. Because to make it work, the US would need a Communist Party that isn't totally useless. And no one who lived through the Cold War is going to allow that to happen.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

is this implying that china has always been communist?

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Yes, the People's Republic of China is the only China

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

That’s not who we are.

soypoint-1 They said the thing! soypoint-2

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

I wasn’t even gonna bother posting to slop bc it is mostly the typical pablum but this paragraph is truly shocking. I can’t remember the last time one of these articles very nearly called China’s political model a good thing

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There is so little introspection on the mater, too.

But perhaps the most important lesson is to stay true to who we are as a nation.

Oh ok, so what does that mean?

That’s what China did. It adopted aspects of the American way that would make it strong again, while sticking to its core system of Communist Party political domination and heavy state involvement in everything. And it has been spectacularly successful.

Hmm, right I see. So China did market reforms but maintained its communist state, got it! So, Communist State + Market Reforms (aka do a little capitalism) = Great Success! But what about America?

Trump’s America, on the other hand, is beginning to seem as if it’s taking cues from China’s political model. That’s not who we are.

Oh. Ok, Which parts of China's political model, exactly? Hmm, it doesn't say. This could mean anything. Is it the "core system of [...] political domination and heavy state involvement in everything." but without the Communist Party? If only the author had come to some kind of conclusion about what exactly Trump is appropriating from the Chinese model. If Trump is doing the "bad" part of the model, what part of the Chinese model are we supposed to be doing, exactly? If doing a little "capitalism" for China = Good, are we supposed to be ... doing a little ... communism in America? What would that even look like, I wonder. Nothing comes to mind, I guess.

The United States can and should consider adopting some of what has worked for China, such as transitioning to renewables; revitalizing industrial policy; supporting science, research and education; reinvesting in infrastructure, housing and safe cities; and above all, having a sense of collective purpose that leads to national strength.

Instead, Mr. Trump’s administration is undermining or slashing funding for critical things such as public safety, infrastructure, education, scientific research, clean energy and semiconductor manufacturing, while fanning political divisions.

Oh, I see, this is what we should be doing. That seems obvious, right? But why can we never actually seem to get there? What is it, exactly, that makes China so on task, so focused, and so driven to meet these goals?

It’s natural for Americans who want a better future to look, albeit grudgingly, at what China has achieved. To be sure, leaders in Beijing don’t have a messy democracy to get in the way of their plans, but that’s hardly the only reason for China’s success. It came also from strategic foresight, investing in the future, a sense of national focus and unity — not division — that comes from the top and millions of individuals working hard to build the country up. China followed America’s lead, but it stuck to its own systems and stayed focused on meeting the basic needs of its population.

Is it really "millions of individuals", that make all these dreams a reality in China? What can the author tell us about Chinas "own systems" which it "stuck to"? How does a Country like China build "a sense of national focus and unity", which of its systems ensures this unity? How does its systems handle division? What are these systems exactly? Come on, author, you've been in China since 2008. You can't elaborate on any of these things?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago
But perhaps the most important lesson is to stay true to who we are as a nation.

Oh ok, so what does that mean?

genocidal imperialists?

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[-] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

America: dictatorship of the bourgeoisie does dictatorship of the bourgeoisie things

Outraged liberals so close to getting it: "What are we, a bunch of COMMIES!?"

I wish y'all were, buddy. If only.

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago

WHERE'S THE HIGH SPEED RAIL, UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE, AND $5 STREET FOOD!?!?!

[-] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago

No universal healthcare in China I'm afraid. The street food is significantly cheaper than 5 dollars though. Try between 1 and 2 dollars

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

What is the healthcare in China like? It may not be true universal healthcare, but surely it's nothing like the "die of poverty from crippling medical debt before the terminal cancer kills you" style of US healthcare?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

It's way closer than it should be, considering that it used to be universal.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

deeper-sadness Guess I need to read up on what happened.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not really sure. But I know it's orders of magnitude cheaper than the US system. You won't go bankrupt from an ambulance ride

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

They have universal public option for insurance to cover the bases. People who can afford it also get supplementary private insurance. This is more or less same as Australia or Germany. The only difference is that being a developing country with large population the basic public option is not as good.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Ah right. Is that opt in or is it something you get with your social security/national insurance card equivalent

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago

Just one small problem crackers: Chinese people are actually native to China...

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

amerikkka doing amerikkkan things amerikkkanly

How could China do this?

[-] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

At this point this needs to the site's permanent tagline

[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Most American president does extremely American things:

[-] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago

Corruption: Russia because the US and the West helped concentrate wealth and power among oligarchs.

Economic policy : Russia in the 1990s, whose policy was dictated by US and the West.

US is getting a taste of what it did to other countries.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Are Americans going to learn to eat vegetables?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

The amerikkkan way is to use inconsistent formatting in documentation. Colons? Equal signs? Periods? Fuck you. I'll raise my M16 and use a god damn comma.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

ignoring English class was (not sure if anyone cares enough anymore) basically presented in American media as a virtue. combine that with 24/7 access to computer and here we are.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

frothingfash "We cannot abide parity of any sort with the mysterious Celestial Middle Kingdom of the Far East Chinesian Orient"

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