I don't get it. Seeing a dick gives you psychic damage? Do straight women take damage too or is it only straight men?
If feels kinda homophobic tbh...
I don't get it. Seeing a dick gives you psychic damage? Do straight women take damage too or is it only straight men?
If feels kinda homophobic tbh...
The way women describe unsolicited dick pics sure seems to imply psychic damage.
I more read it implying that the barbarian was ridiculously hung, and the mere sight of it is enough to do damage. So not a dick, but his dick in particular. Which feels on brand for a barb.
Yeah, the theme is that you can never see your (platonic) friend again without also recalling his glorious megacock.
Sure, but if the wizard were a woman, the joke wouldn't work, because no one would expect her eyes to bleed and she wouldn't "need therapy" simply from seeing a dick. Those parts only "work" because it's a dude seeing another dudes dick, and that part feels sus
Is it homophobic that I don't want to see anyones dick?
No, but if you think seeing one will make your eyes bleed and give you trauma, then it's a bit more than not wanting to see someones dick...
I don't think theres anything that would make my eyes bleed just by looking at it. Maybe itd be different if we lived in a world with magic, where someone insulting me physically hurts.
And yeah, seeing my friends dick wouldnt exactly traumatize me, but it would definitely be something i wouldve dramatically preferred didnt happen. I think the mental damage would be comparable to stubbing my toe, which is at least a d4.
If the dick's too big, I bet even women would be traumatised at the sight. Also, getting mental damage from being forced to look at dicks happens in real life, as well. That's why indecent exposure and unsolicited dick pics are a no no.
While I can assume the OP wrote that with a male perspective in mind, at least in DnD, Wizard is a gender neutral class. Personally I read it as an ultra-prudish character reacting, but perhaps I'm being too charitable in my interpretation.
Hm, good point
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Most straight women and most straight men have an alarmed and upset reaction if they see an unexpected penis while going about their day. I don’t see this as being a gendered thing at all, although some of the details of the nature of the alarm are gendered and could even involve homophobia, it’s mostly just that suddenly seeing a dick is most often a negative experience.
I literally don’t see anything about this that has to do with sexuality in any way, it feels like you’re just trying to shoehorn that in there.
Sure, an unexpected dick is distracting, no matter who is involved. It might break your concentration, make you feel embarrassed, turn you on, or any one of a thousand reactions, none of which are homophobic.
But "your eyes start to bleed" and "your pupils dilate from the trauma", "roll for therapy", "take psychic damage", those are a different story... The punchline there is that a man seeing another mans dick is traumatic, and that's only "funny" because homophobia.
But “your eyes start to bleed” and “your pupils dilate from the trauma”, “roll for therapy”, “take psychic damage”, those are a different story… The punchline there is that a man seeing another mans dick is traumatic, and that’s only “funny” because homophobia.
Jesus Christ you are a caricature of why people don't take the left seriously.
That is all I will say on the matter. We're allowed to have a difference of opinion, I'm just stating mine which is disagreeing with your take on it.
We're allowed to have a difference of opinion
You're the one calling me a caricature for disagreeing with you. Pick a lane
Fair enough, I shouldn't have gotten personal with it, sorry about that.
There's a point where the expectancy of homophobia becomes a phobia. You start to see it around every corner, take simple comments completely the wrong way, and overall cast judgement before trying to understand meaning. I understand the position you take on this and why you have come to your conclusion, but I don't believe that that's the context of the situation. I believe the size of the member in question has everything to do with it.
There are those out there that are instantly casting judgement on every conversation. The right and wrong meter fires up, and they see what they fear. They then live curled up, restrained, and tortured. They see eyes through every window, feel inferior (or worse, superior), and begin to think something is wrong with either them or everyone around them. They ruin possible relationships and become confrontational. You should live free, without fear, and put the stones down. You're going to hurt someone who didn't mean anything bad someday.
I'm with you in the fight against homophobia and transphobia, but we have to stop lashing out on suspicion. We have to really consider the following: Keeping your mind open and expecting the best in people often opens us to a better life with more opportunities. I like to try and see the best in people. I'll occasionally become disappointed when those expectations fall, but I'd rather live like that than skipping straight to disappointment without giving others a chance.
It's been a weight off my shoulders since I began to think like this. I no longer look through a window of doubt and unease at people when I meet them, I look right into the person themselves. I have seen people flinch or look away when I look them in the eye, because it's a silent confirmation- it says, I see you, and it scares them sometimes. You might be surprised at how many people in the world go unseen and unheard, even in public situations, and its shocking to them when someone really listens, tries to understand, and reciprocates.
I went off a little bit, but returning to the comment in question. I don't believe it was meant in any sort of disregard to any one walk of life. It sounds a bit to me like the commenter was describing their own painful disbelief through a random, nondescript character in a comedic and narrative way. It was in jest and made sense to them, and I can't see any confrontational evidence in the comment that states otherwise. They did not state the gender of the wizard, they did not state the orientation of the wizard, nor did they state why they took psychological damage.
We shouldn't add our own context to the story under assumption and be angry because we believe our assumption is right.
I'm sorry if I don't reply to you right away after this. I spent a lot of time and consideration on my reply, and am now way past bedtime. I'm not trying belittle your thoughts and feelings... I'm just trying to explain how I see it the best I can.
but we have to stop lashing out on suspicion
I wrote two sentences about how it feels a bit off to me. I didn't "lash out".
In response, I got a 500 word essay trying to encourage me not to challenge the status quo. The fact that you interpreted a short post, which wasn't aggressive, and was clearly an expression of a personal opinion as "lashing out" is something I think you should look at. You're projecting something on to me...
I went off a little bit, but returning to the comment in question. I don't believe it was meant in any sort of disregard to any one walk of life.
I agree, but that doesn't mean there's nothing underneath it. Normalised homophobia, racism and sexism are all things. They're often invisible, which is how they get normalised in the first place. People repeating them often don't even realise that they are. Challenging those norms is a good thing, because it helps people look at things from a perspective they may not have actively considered before, and that is how change happens.
I still don't think that makes it right to accuse people of homophobia, no matter how off hand. I don't see anything normalizing homophobia in this comment, but again I just don't like to assume these things. Lashing out was maybe a bit too far, but it's still a fairly hurtful accusation for someone who didn't mean anything.
Its a really big dick. Would you have made the same comment if the wizard saw the barbarian's glorious asscheeks? I dunno. It's just a dick to me. It's a wad of flesh, just like any other wad of flesh.
And yes, I write long because I have severe unmedicated ADHD and social anxiety. And every time I try to convey myself, I punish myself for it. That's my problem and I'm trying to deal with it.
As for challenging norms, you can teach someone to understand, but you can't force them to accept. But understanding works both ways. It's the same as any belief. Also, I wasn't trying to project onto you, I'm sorry. I was just asking you to have a little forgiveness in your heart for the ignorant. I'm really trying hard to understand everything as much as I can.
And please don't accuse me of homophobia for just trying to understand. I lost my virginity to another man, enjoyed it, and I'm extremely open about it to everyone (including my religious family) because I have no shame nor do I think it was wrong.
I only happened to fall in love with a woman later because she is an amazing person and she deserves all the love and loyalty I can give her. She's my absolute best friend who I have no secrets from. I advocate love in every way, shape, and form.
I encourage advocation. Just... please try not to trample bystanders in the process.
And now I must get to bed. My anxiety kept me up looking for a reply, because I'm really not trying to upset you, I'm just trying to make sense of everything. And I guess I also just wanted to talk to someone and I'm honestly enjoying the chat (I'm talkative, if you hadn't noticed, lol). I also don't mind if you don't read this. It is quite long...
I encourage advocation. Just... please try not to trample bystanders in the process.
Go back and re-read my post, and then please tell me, how was I trampling anyone?
I'm just trying to make sense of everything.
This isn't what "trying to make sense of everything" looks like. That would consist of asking questions. You aren't asking questions though, you're putting in a large amount of effort to tell me that actually, I'm the problem.
Well... sometimes people just don't understand each other, too. It was nice talking to you. I didn't ask any questions because you made yourself quite clear in other comments. You seem to be the type that makes timid people feel unseen, and I don't vibe with that.
By trying to make sense of everything, I don't mean the small fishbowl you seem to be seeing here. I mean humanity. Maybe I'm just insane.
Well, good luck to you. Pick out and reply to everything you don't like in life (as you did here) and trample past everything else. That just sounds like stress to me, and I have enough of that without seeing daggers where there are none.
As I said earlier, my initial comment was short, clearly a statement of personal opinion and not aggressive. You have responded with walls of text greatly exaggerating the content of my comment, and made multiple accusations against me, simply because you don't like the fact I challenged a joke that comes across as homophobic to me.
You suggest that you also want to challenge homophobia, but somehow, the mild way in which I've done it here is still going too far for you, and warrants multiple accusations against my character.
I hope when you wake up, you can look at this conversation with fresh eyes and re-evaluate your role in it.
Thank you for sharing!
So good
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