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[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago

Sadly from October 2021, their site seems to be offline

[-] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago

The project it looks based on is Meshtastic, the nodes are pretty cheap, you can even find them on Amazon if your truly desperate.

https://meshtastic.org/

[-] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

There's also MeshCore, and now the networks are split between these 2.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well... Shit. Time to check out meshcore!

Edit: Nah, company driven.

I'll keep the fully open GPL 3 meshtastic my preferred

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

If someone is interested in getting involved with meshtastic but doesn’t have soldering or any electronics background you can purchase ready made devices from many vendors.

https://muzi.works/products/refurbished-r1-with-external-antenna

https://lilygo.cc/products/t-deck-plus-meshtastic?variant=45315795845301

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

It's a fun project!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks dad.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

There are lots of competing LoRa mesh networks right now.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago

Are you familiar with Briar?

Works over internet, TOR, local wifi, bluetooth, even "sneakernet".

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

No I’m not. Looking foward to reading this

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I've never used it, but I've heard of "Jami" that is supposed to operate in a similar fashion.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

My only complaints with it are that there's no iOS app, which cut down the userbase significantly, and that there's no easy way to migrate / export a profile and and existing contacts between devices.

And I wish I could set a Briar mailbox node (without the encryption key, so that if compromised you can't read anything meaningful) on a VPS to receive messages when my app is offline. Right now the only way to accomplish this is with another Android device.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've found Jami from another comment a few hours ago, but I haven't downloaded it yet. But I think it expects an existing internet/network connection, where Briar seems to be focused on getting messages across through any means available.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Is that still in development? The desktop client at least looks like it hasn't been updated in quite some time.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

AFAIK, yes. Latest release is from March of this year, and they have commits as of a month ago.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah I’ve fall for it me too and foward it to my friend, cool projet nonetheless sadly it seems to be nowhere to be found 😢

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

To be fair, given what lengths the police will go to messing with protesters, would anybody trust some random mesh network?

[-] [email protected] 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mesh networks can be built on zero trust principles and have everything E2EE. Kind of like Tor.

But the more realistic scenario is the police will just deploy jammers to completely disable all wireless communication.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

It could go either way. The benefit of faking an activist mesh network is tracking and surveillance for later retaliation.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

It's another thing they have to do. They're not all RF/SW engineers so they'd have to adapt to it the same way they'd adapt to anything else. By building networks that aren't corporate controlled, however, activists can engineer them around anonymity instead of serving the police.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

No, but if Musk and Zuckerberg has taught us anything, there are plenty of engineers who are willing to sell out humanity for fascism. No one is safe, and we should not trust random networks just because it’s “activist controlled”.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It comes down to how the network is designed, Meshtastic is open source, you can go look at how the encryption works right now. There are issues with Meshtastic from a privacy standpoint but you could somewhat trivially design a derivative that is much more zero trust.

As with all things, layer your defenses. Not using the network that's known to be surveiling you and instead using one that you have some confidence is leaking less info on top of the usual precautions is a solid improvement.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, well, some would.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

This! Is the most resilient. It can run on anything, not just LoRa! So, it can work on underlying infra (assuming there's power, e.g. renewables)

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