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[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

the only people ever obsessed with AI, were corporate heads looking to reduce headcount in thier companies, and to suck up more VC money.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Right. And now AI has failed to deliver the promised miracles (as expected) for three years. So now it's time to pick a new hype train to introduce the venture capitalists to.

All aboard!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

i just went by a convention center, they are still hyping it up with tech conventions every few days, im in the west, so they concentrate all the tech hyping in the west.

[-] [email protected] 100 points 4 days ago

You should probably mention that this is an article from 7 months ago.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago

No, they already stole everything, so there’s nothing left they can use to train and improve further.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

nope, AI already kinda peaked what it can do currently.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

3 years ago Sam Altman said the current models hit a wall and the media blocked it out

[-] [email protected] 79 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don’t get my hopes up. I want them to lose as much of their dumb tech bro money as possible.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

PSA:

Loose is the opposite of tight.

Lose is the opposite of win.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Also lefty-loosy, righty-tighty, or if you want to translate from the Spanish expression "la derecha oprime y la izquierda libera" ("the right oppresses and the left liberates") that's sage advice too.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

It's worse than that... They are broken. Like, they are all fucking broken.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I got into AI in 2023 for a few months just to see if I could make sense of it all.

The whole thing as an industry is almost entirely smoke and mirrors meant to confuse, obscuring theft and fraud.

It does have some neat applications and opportunities, (generating templates; storyboarding) but warrants a small R&D team of enthusiasts, not the collective investment and resources of entire nations.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

what you’re forgetting is: it makes all video blackmail tapes useless… or it’s getting closer to that…
at any rate, that’s the only way i can rationalize the amount of money going into it…
btw, did you know that when the FBI raided Epstein’s island, they forgot to get a warrant for his safe, which was full of hard drives and videos… after they got the warrant, the safe had been emptied….
from a secured fbi crime scene on an island…
i guess nobody talks about it because there’s not much else to the story….
well, except, how was the safe even excluded? if they’re searching the whole property, wouldn’t the safe be included?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

We're going to need a new BS tech meme for arsehole investors to speculate in. Whats next? I'm guessing something medical. Personalized health care perhaps.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I think you're right.

We're due for something DNA based, since they can all grab a cheap copy of the 23andMe data set, now.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have a theory about this.

The people who had both genius and work ethic made magic. That was the GPT, Dall-E, AlphaGo generation of AI. You can't make magic because you want to have a good career and you did some seminars. You have to do it because you have it burning inside you, and you're in a community of people who all have that type of vision, and all pulling in the same direction you can make things that are impossible before you did them.

(Not that I'm saying AI itself is necessarily a good thing, certainly not in its present trajectory. I'm just saying that getting the tech from recognizing digits to ChatGPT was pretty fucking impressive.)

Now probably about 90% of the people in the field are there because it's a good career. And, the people giving them their marching orders day-to-day are greedy idiots. You just can't make magic that way. All you can do is follow the road that's been laid down. The industry is just throwing orders of magnitude more electricity, money, and engineer time at these still-impossible remaining problems and hoping that'll get them suddenly solved.

Remember when ChatGPT was programmed by competent and humble people (who are now, a lot of them, fired because they fought with Sam Altman), and so it kept emphasizing to people that it was not an AI (meaning an AGI), just a language model? They felt like that was important for people to understand (not that it did any good). Anyway, those days are gone, and with them, the forward progress that people like that can make.

Why? Because we're trying to make magic with career people. It doesn't work that way, never has. It's like trying to start a fire with a bunch of rocks. Rocks are fine. Fire is fine, if a little bit dangerous. But they are not interchangeable.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

GPT, DALL-E and AlphaGo are not the type of magic born from passion. They are the type of magic born by years of researchers doing the mostly boring work of science. Those are career people. They are just career researchers.

The current public AI scene is what happens when commercial interests take over. They can push the current state of the art to its limit, but aren't going to make any fundamental breakthroughs.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Those are career people. They are just career researchers.

People mostly only accept the extremely shitty working conditions of the research industry if they have at least one of a lot of passion, extreme egomania, or independent wealth. Preferably more than one. Most of the people doing a research career do at least start out with a lot of passion.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Exactly, they are a breakthrough built on top of decades of steadily paced progress. Those decades are conveniently ignored by the commercial interests, who like to act as if those once in a decade breakthroughs are actually the normal pace of research at their company, and the next one is right around the corner.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

Yes of course they are at the limit, and because they poisoned the internet with generative bullshit, they can't scrape it and expect improvement, but they are still scraping it, so they're poisoning themselves.

The end of the article has classic snake oil trash. The idea that newer AI could be trained to think similar to how humans think. Yes, great, you know scientists have been working on that for decades. Good luck succeeding where nobody else did. There's a reason that so-called weak AI or so-called expert systems are the ones that we all remember as having lasted for decades.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Shh. Let it happen. Let the poison take hold.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

I don't think it's just the poison, but an inherent limitation on the technology. An LLM is never going to be able to have critical thinking skills.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Quality over quantity will be the next generation of AI models

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

What comes after that is the next google/amazon.

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