i think the "china government spying on you" argument is looking increasingly pathetic even in the most libbed out reddit spaces

our government is working with Thiel to build an actual, real social credit system on every single person. I would pay China to take all my data and hide it for safekeeping in the CPC secret server room if that was an option

if i'm lucky i'll get an expedited tourist visa or something if/when i ever go visit

They send your data to the Chinese government!!!11!

Ok. Xi, if you're listening, I would make a model citizen

Be a shame for the Chinese government to have all my data. They could use it to.. uh.. they would.. no, I really can't think of anything that doesn't include giving it to US corporations.

It would unironically be a good thing for westerners if Chinese phones actually did send data to the CPC. Because there's nothing the Chinese government can do to worsen your life, but you could be confident that your base software is vetted by world experts who are ensuring the phone isn't sending data going to the US or corporations, who frequently illegally abuse that data to your direct detriment.

Cutting usaid funding really improved reddit

communism no iphone!

capitalism no xiaomi

The Chinese will steal your data

Oh no! Anyways

I ask this as someone who's unhappily been using Samsung for a decade, is this true? I'd love for my next phone to not be from that terrible company.

I wish "Chinese spying" mattered as much to me as Western gov spying. I might go visit China one more time before I die, whereas my government seems willing to disappear leftists and I live here.

Maybe it's the cut CIA staff/budget

"china could be spying on me from their phones" aside from the obvious "western governments are too" and the secondary obvious that china could just buy data from western companies anyways western made commincations devices CAN BLOW UP IN YOUR POCKET DUE TO SECRETELY PLANNED EXPLOSIVE DEVICES AND KILL YOUR FAMILY AND ALL THE COUNTRY WOULD HAVE TO DO IS SAY THEY WERE TARGETTING TERRORISTS AND BAM YOU ARE DEAD AND THERE IS NO RECOURSE AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED YOU

am i going to worry that china knows what kind of depraved porn im into or where i ate lunch today or am i going to worry about my phone being used in a state-sanctioned terrorist attack????

The anglo internet is isolating itself from all this incredible chinese tech too. Do a search for best smartphone of 2025, and you likely won't see oneplus, honor, xiaomi, huawei, realme, or nubia.

I just did this for best EREV of 2025. The results were US car companies' future plans, despite the fact that chinese erev's are already out and breaking the 800 mile per charge mark.

I have a OnePlus 12 and its my favorite phone I've ever had. I sometimes take the case off to admire it because I'm a freak and because its a beautiful emerald green.

Problem is that most of the Chinese companies don't include all the necessary cell bands on their phones for the US so service and/or speed can be a little worse or very significantly worse than something from Google or Samsung.

But you get a device that usually has higher resolution and better overall specs for the same price.

OnePlus, despite the only company to sell domestic versions of their phones, still removed some bands from the 13 series that were in the 12.

I hate the US cellphone monopoly.

I'd prob make my next phone a Chinese one if grapheneOS supported it and it wasn't too big. Unfortunately neither of those things are particularly likely ;_;

did y'all know "rugged" phones are a thing? they look like rubber bricks but with like pretty decent smartphone specs and oh

22000+mah batteries

kinda surprised I've never seen one IRL because

22000+mah batteries 22000+mah batteries 22000+mah batteries

like not gonna lie I like the thought of charging my phone once a week

All I really want is a 16:9 phone that you can take the battery out of, that has decent storage and compatibility.

Are there any Chinese phones that fit this? I'd settle for 18:9 as well.

I bought an Honor after Huawei got banned in Europe and they have both been the best phones I've ever owned. Very cheap, great battery life, sufficient camera, lots of storage, great performance.

Honestly I don't respect people who drop 500 bucks on an iPhone just because they're loyal to the brand.

Dollar for dollar the Chinese manufacturers are delivering better specs for sure.

Bear in mind though that the spying people get bent out of shape about is not the domestic spying they ought to be worried over. American cops, border patrol and intelligence agencies have devoted much, much more time and money into being able to get into android and specifically Chinese devices.

Owners of these devices should completely wipe them before traveling abroad or times when they expect to encounter phone snatching cops.

As someone who's used Xiaomi for years and years, had a Pixel too - the only thing that it doesn't beat western stuff with is cameras.

Unfortunately it is definitely true that iPhones take the nicest pictures - sure, sure, show me your best Samsung or Huawei images, or the highly regarded Pixel camera software - maybe you can capture the occasional landscape better - but pound for pound none of the phones I've ever had have taken nicer pictures than my partners outdated iPhone. Very annoying.

only reason i have a pixel is for the call screening which is immensely useful to me because I get at least 2 - 3 spam calls a day if not more.. if it wasn't for that i'd never buy another pixel as long as i lived