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https://twitter.com/BotTheFlag/status/1588190764705652737

Kinda sucks that this artist (Red and Black Salamander) never grew past their 2018 Bernie left phase, I used to like their stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

lots of trans anarchists out there with zero theory, sadly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Trans people are disproprotionately comrades compared to cis people, but there's still some real libs on trans twitter

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have no idea what that cartoon is supposed to say

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think I've ever seen tankies complain about "globalism" tho. The only people who talk about it is right-wingers who came up with the term and some dumbass neolibs who embraced it fow some reason

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

To understand R&B Salamander's brainworms one has to go back through their catalog and see their constant "tankie = MAGA" strawmanning and their liberal imperialist understanding of the ukraine conflict

exhibit A

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exhibit E (probably the worst thing I've seen all year)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for your sacrifice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think I’ve ever seen tankies complain about “globalism” tho.

To the neoliberal, "globalism" and "imperialism" are the same critique.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

fucking christ, that twitter thread is a bunch of people who think the internet is real life. go ask people in real life about nazbols and tankies, they won't know what the fuck youre talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

that twitter thread is a bunch of people who think the internet is real life

When you're terminally online and interacting exclusively with other terminally online folks...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If I am ever lined up against the wall and shot, I’m gonna be pissed about being in the same line as Twitter liberals

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“First they came for the Twitter shitlibs, and I did not speak out, because I hated those assholes”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it is truly sad how often a constantly-online anarchist sounds like a liberal. at least outside of hexbear. i feel like i never have that issue with commies/socialists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone whose affinity group irl is mostly anarchists, I feel like anarchists on Twitter are just significantly more centrist than anarchists irl

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

anarchists with social skills arent running around in public screaming "tankies!!1" while everyone ignores them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know a bunch of anarchists IRL and they only slightly rib me and take some ribbing back about our ideological differences. It's more fun to talk about destroying our shared enemies and admitting just going with what works is the best strategy, not being too ideologically pure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Same here, I know MLS, demsocs, anarchists, etc. We all mostly get along and as you said anytime we make digs about one ideology or another it's always mostly in jest or good faith criticism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

just makes me think even more and more any "anarchist" promoting leftist infighting is either actually a liberal and doesnt know it or works for a 3 letter agency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep, I think anarchists have definitely nailed down the street politics that the communists have lost over the past century. Any socialist movement in the west will rely heavy anarchist organizing for conflict and radicalized trade unions that will probably end up shifting more towards what we'd call ML though likely in a newer form.

The old divides are gone, AES has shown a thousand possible pathways to development and maintenance of a revolutionary state and in the end whatever happens will inevitably come from the conditions of the revolution and the conditions of the economy in the revolutionary state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Like for one, who is always at the forefront in the US when some cop cars get torched for doing a homeless camp sweep, or the majority of people out there feeding people in orgs like FNB? I have respect for ML comrades and I'm not by any stretch saying they don't do good work like that too, but whenever I see people say shit like, "oh anarchists never had a successful revolution" I'm like ok get out here with us then, come work in the kitchen, come put your ass on the line too. And at the same time I see people saying shit like "the MLs just want power and they are going to murder anarchists" like we somehow have to play out the same exact hundred year old ideological beefs.

It's all terminally online LARP bullshit and it's so damn frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Direct action gets the goods

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t even understand the stereotype. “Globalists” is a right wing dogwhistle for “jews”. I’ve never heard leftists use the term derogatorily. If we wanna talk shit about western hegemony or NATO, we use those terms directly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There actually used to be a coherent leftist stance against "globalization" in the 90s. Like lots of protest movements, but that was much more focused on opposing things like corporate personhood, NAFTA, international debt schemes, stuff like that. I remember being in leftist chatrooms in like 2003 and they were talking about "globalism" but they meant the IMF. Leftists now seem to prefer to talk about that stuff in a broader context of imperialism.

Anyone now though using the term in a derogatory way is a deranged conspiracy theorist talking about Jews or they want a fascist world of nationality based on race.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The Battle of Seattle. Do you all really have memories that short? Seattle burned over NAFTA. Jello Biafra had an album called "No to WTO" or something like that.