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[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I think rejecting AI is a mistake. All that does is allow fascists to have mastery of the tools. Like money, guns, media, food, oil, or any number of other influential things, you don't want a select few people to have sole control over them.

Instead, we should adopt AI and make it work towards many good ends for the everyday person. For example, we can someday have AI that can be effective and cheap lawyers. This would allow small companies to oppose the likes of Disney in court, or for black dudes to successfully argue their innocence in court against cops.

AI, like any tool, reflects the intent of their user.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

It would be like a military rejecting gunpowder weapons. Except this weapon is mass mind control. There is no letting go of the horns of that bull.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly it just feels like ai is created to spy on us more efficiently. Less so about assisting us.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean the Oracle CEO said so explicitly last year to investors

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

That guy is such a creep, he makes my skin crawl with his nightmarish hyperstition.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I guess that means it could also be the most effective tool for saving democracy. Fuck these what if's over factual news.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's guns. The most effective way to diamantle democracy is violence.

AI is not stopping anyone from revolting. Guns and the military are.

Whar a stupid fucking take.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

AI allows for 24/7 bot networks to shape perspectives on politics and culture by leaving comments everywhere man. Bots absolutely help prevent people from realizing they've been swindled by Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Yep, people revolt because of the story they believe. Control their story and they won't want to revolt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Bu controlling what people see and hear on TV and social media, they don't need to use guns. At least, not nearly as many.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Whar a stupid

Yep.

[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 days ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

Nope. I'd still say social media/social media algorithms.

Imagine if social media didn't exist (beyond small, tight-knit communities like forums about [topic], or BBS communities), but all these AI tools still did.

Susan creates an AI generated image of illegal immigrants punching toddlers, then puts it on her "news" blog full of other AI content generated to push an agenda.

Who would see it? How would it spread? Maybe a few people she knows. It'd be pretty localised, and she'd be quickly known locally as a crank. She'd likely run out of steam and give up with the whole endeavour.

Add social media to the mix, and all of a sudden she has tens of thousands of eyes on her, which brings more and more. People argue against it, and that entrenches the other side even more. News media sees the amount of attention it gets and they feel they have to report, and the whole thing keeps growing. Wealthy people who can benefit from the bullshit start funding it and it continues to grow still.

You don't need AI to do this, it just makes it even easier. You do need social media to do this. The whole model simply wouldn't work without it.

This has been going on for a lot longer than we've had LLMs everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Half of it wouldn't even work if the news media would do their job and filter out crap like that instead of being lazy and reporting what is going on on social media.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's the algorithms + genAI, especially as the techbros got super mad about the progressive backlash against genAI, which radicalized everyone of them into Curtis Yarvin-style technofeudalism.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

AI "guardrails" is even a bigger tool governments can use to dismantle democracy and kill freedom. The article starts by quoting the pope who isn't even a democratic ruler, he gets appointed by cardinals who are appointed by the previous pope. AI could have wrote a more useful article.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is a thing on social media already.

Lots of bad faith conservatives will just output AI garbage. They don’t care about truth, they just want to waste your time. You spend time researching their claims, providing counter evidence - they don’t care, because they don’t even read what you say, just copy and paste into an LLM.

It’s very concerning with the Trump administrations attack on science. Science papers are disappearing, accurate/vetted information because sparser - then you can train Grok to claim that all trans women are rapists or that global warming is just Milkanovitch cycles.

It is and has been an info war. An attack on human knowledge itself. And AI will be used to facilitate it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Jean-Paul Sartre

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.

It is so goddamn frustrating. I had one on here claiming that the US had not deported US citizens, while linking the article saying that the US had deported four children who were citizens!

I read fast and have been following this shit for so long that I can call a lot out. But it never changes their minds, they never concede defeat. They just jump from place to place. Or “you libs always assume i’m MAGA” is a funny one I keep seeing on here - like, if you are supporting Trump’s policies, you are a Trump supporter. It’s so goddamn slimy and disingenuous.

TERFs are the worst about it. They’ve started spreading Holocaust denial. I saw one claim the the Nazi government issued transvestite passes! Like no! It was the Weimar Republic! The Nazis used those passes to track down and kill trans people!

You can provide crystal clear documentation, all of the sources they ask for - it’s never good enough and it’s exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

My takeaway: if they don't respond to evidence in good faith, you can simply consider them as enemies. From there, the only time to argue with them is when you want to convince other people in the room about your position. The court of public opinion is the key to obtaining a better society.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

It’s probably some ASD-ish adjacent, but it just breaks my brain every time. It seems like there’s a large proportion of people who don’t seem to actually care whether they have an accurate understanding of the world or not? The amount of times online I’ve been able to show someone evidence that they demanded, and then they double down. At best they’ll go silent, but then you’ll see them making the exact same claim later.

In general right now it seems like there are a lot willing to call evil good, and good evil. Everything is backwards. The Moral Majority voted in a pedophile rapist.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

They're trying to burn the library of Alexandria, again.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

This is the inevitable end game of some groups of people trying to make AI usage taboo using anger and intimidation without room for reasonable disagreement. The ones devoid of morals and ethics will use it to their hearts content and would never interact with your objections anyways, and when the general public is ignorant of what it is and what it can really do, people get taken advantage off.

Support open source and ethical usage of AI, where artists, creatives, and those with good intentions are not caught in your legitimate grievances with corporate greed, totalitarians, and the like. We can't reasonably make it go away, but we can reduce harmful use of it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Creating unbiased public, open-source alternatives to corporate-controlled models.

Unbiased? I don't think that's possible, sir.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So is renewable energy, but if I start correcting people that they don't exist because the sun is finite, I will look like a pedant.

Because compared to the fossil fiels they are renewable, the same way Wikipedia is unbiased compared to foxnews.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

the same way Wikipedia is unbiased compared to foxnews.

If better was the goal, people would have voted for Kamala.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

When the fuck will you people get it?? Every technology will eventually be used against you by the state

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When the fuck will you people get it??

This is the wrong way to get people to care what you have to say.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Well explaining it nicely doesn't seem to do anything either so...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

They're giving real "why couldn't they just protest peacefully (after years of peaceful protest with no results)" energy

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

A tool is a tool. What matters is who is using it and for what.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

True, and yet a machine gun is a not a stethoscope.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Only if you don’t consider capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Kinda like people focusing on petty crime and ignoring the fact that corporations steal billions from us.

We as a society give capitalism such a blanket pass, that we don’t even consider what it actually is.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (12 children)

It could also be an effective tool for liberation. Tools are like that. Just matters how they’re used and by whom.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don’t believe the common refrain that AI is only a problem because of capitalism. People already disinform, make mistakes, take irresponsible shortcuts, and spam even when there is no monetary incentive to do so.

I also don’t believe that AI is “just a tool”, fundamentally neutral and void of any political predisposition. This has been discussed at length academically. But it’s also something we know well in our idiom: “When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” When you have AI, genuine communication looks like raw material. And the ability to place generated output alongside the original… looks like a goal.

Culture — the ability to have a very long-term ongoing conversation that continues across many generations, about how we ought to live — is by far the defining feature of our species. It’s not only the source of our abilities, but also the source of our morality.

Despite a very long series of authors warning us, we have allowed a pocket of our society to adopt the belief that ability is morality. “The fact that we can, means we should.”

We’re witnessing the early stages of the information equivalent of Kessler Syndrome. It’s not that some bad actors who were always present will be using a new tool. It’s that any public conversation broad enough to be culturally significant will be so full of AI debris that it will be almost impossible for humans to find each other.

The worst part is that this will be (or is) largely invisible. We won’t know that we’re wasting hours of our lives reading and replying to bots, tugging on a steering wheel, trying to guide humanity’s future, not realizing the autopilot is discarding our inputs. It’s not a dead internet that worries me, but an undead internet. A shambling corpse that moves in vain, unaware of its own demise.

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