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[–] [email protected] 128 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Love my Brother black and white laser printer.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

It is important to point out that it isn't the brand that makes it good, it is the fact that it is laser.

I used to have a Brother "multi function center" printer/scanner/photocopier/fax that used inkjet and it was pure asshole design. Wasting expensive ink just by remaining plugged in and refusing to do anything if one cartridge was low on ink (but was actually still half full)

But if I had to single out a brand that should absolutely be avoided for printers it is HP. They do asshole DRM to a whole new level. They bricked a brand new ink cartridge because I didn't put it in properly at first.

Now I have a laser printer and the nightmare is finally over.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (8 children)

With my old brother inkjet, it would say it was out of ink in like 2 weeks because it used an optical sensor on the printer looking through a window on the ink cartridge at aimed at a floating piece of black plastic in the tank that would drop when the ink level went down.

The thing is, the sponge in the cartridge would soak up the ink and cause the floater to drop when there was still like 90% of the ink left.

So the key was to just put some black electrical tape over the window on the cartridge and keep using it until it actually stopped printing that color.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This is exactly what my Brother MFC did and I also put some tape on the window to extend the cartridge life. The problem is that it still went through "cleaning cycles" every few days, in which it will dump a bunch of ink into a big sponge hidden inside the printer (I took it apart after it broke). It will eventually run out ink even if you don't use it because of that. And if you keep it unplugged to stop it from doing that it will eventually dry up and clog up. Even worse, if you leave it plugged in with tape on the cartridges and it tries to print with an actually empty cartridge, it will burn the printer head.

The absolute worst part is that you have zero control over when it did those cycles in which it would make all sorts of loud clunking and whirring noises and if it detected that an ink cartridge was low it would also beep loudly. It was in my bedroom at that time and it would wake me up in the middle of the night every time. I don't care what people say about this company, I will never buy anything from it again.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

All inkjet printers have to waste ink when they are not in use. Otherwise the ink in the print head dries out and clogs it up. Inkjet printers are the worst possible choice for infrequent use.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I have a Canon laserjet that absolutely sucks and a Brother inkjet that works great. Both were about the same price (the Brother can do 11x17) and were top recommendations from a bunch of sources. Unfortunately I think buying a printer at this point is just a crapshoot of whether it'll actually be good.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Mate, they sold you a printer that prints white?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Had to pay twice as much for two colors but it was worth it!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Well, if it would only print black, you could not see the text!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I’m convinced this is the only good printer in existence. They are an absolute workhorse.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Disregard inkjet printers

Acquire laser printer

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Brother used to be the go-to but there was a post a week or so ago showing how they are starting to hold laser toner hostage.

I replaced my HP inkjet with a Brother laser a little over a year ago and seems to be going okay. Though I'm hesitant to let it update firmware.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I will throw this idea into the ether and hope someone with more time, knowledge, and talent than me builds on it: swap the brains of an HP Printer with a raspberry pi. All the motors and wiring are in place, and HP sells the printer for cheap to screw you on ink and software. You'd probably want a new source of ink and a way to refill the cartridges to fully cut out HP. I feel like this would get you pretty close at an affordable price.

The whole world wants the Linux version of a printer, we just need a couple people to get together and figure this out.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The Linux version of a printer is just buy a brother color laser (or non color). I bought one for 85 bucks like 15 years ago and it still chugging along

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Ohh God ... That's a very, very tall order.

You wouldn't think that it's that complicated. I worked in a print-on-demand house for about 5 years, The amount of black magic fuckery that goes on between streaming data into that driver and getting stuff on the page is absolutely insane.

You're standing on the backs of like 40 years of trade secrets and poorly implemented protocols at half-assed feature sets.

And then the worst part is, HP is spent the last 20 years making the printer cheaper. Most of the inkjets don't even have steppers anymore, just DC motors and a resistive feedback ribbon.

Developing a multi-platform certified signed driver would be a pretty decent hurdle as well.

Can't we just stop printing? Change things over to black and white thermal when we really need something that's pretty easy to do.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

I would love to make a living lobotomizing smart devices.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Someone could probably do this. But it would just be a fun project, not replicable.

You'd need to write your own printer driver. There are probably some open source libraries out there to do most of the heavy lifting, but it's still a project.

The big issue is going to be the interface between the pi and the printer's "motors and wiring". Doable, but too finicky to publish a "kit" or something for someone else to replicate. It could be worth the work if it would help other people, but I don't think that's on the table.

Honestly, I think anyone with the ability to do that would probably find it easier to just build their own printer.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

*Goes through and upvotes all the comments about getting a Brother laser printer*

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Mostly true, but a few months ago there was some reports of an automatic firmware update that blocked 3rd party ink or toner. It was probably my fault since I just bought a Brother and this sort of thing always seems to happen to me.

This reminds me, I need to learn how to partition my network to keep thebprinter from reaching the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago

Fuck you, HP

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

My advice, since as others have said inkjets are trash: If you only need to print something every so often, use your local library. Easier if you live close to one, and still a hassle loading it on a thumb drive, but to me it’s easier than having a printer taking up space in my home.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And if you want to print photos, get it done at a lab. It'll cost more or less the same or even be cheaper, and come out much better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When you say "a lab," what are you referring to? Do you mean shops that provide photo printing, or somewhere more dedicated to photography specifically?

I like to scrapbook, but I don't know anywhere that only prints photos. The photo lab at CVS can suffice for a lot of things, but if there is a better option, I'd value advice about it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I meant it as a generic term for a photo printing place. Typically online nowadays. Good ones will do colour proofing if you take that into account in your processing.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Governments need to sue more companies for the environmental and resource damage they do with irresponsible business models like this. Get that money Mr. Government. It's laying on the floor for you to pick up.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Also note that printers come with a smaller cartridge. Buying another printer isn't cheaper, even if it costs less.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

I have to press "keep on printing" on my printer for months now and every print is fine. This is just disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Living in Japan and being able to walk a block over to the convenience store when I need to print something every few months is the greatest daily life I've ever had with a printer.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Pro life tip.

  1. Buy a printer that accepts off-brand cartridges.
  2. Buy off-brand cartridges in bulk for further discounts (I buy 12-packs of 'Hicorch' cartridges for my Epson Stylus)
  3. Relax never having to worry about running out of ink.
[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)
  1. Don't update the printer that might put DRM in after the fact.
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)
  1. don't buy an inkjet printer
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

Ink is for chumps. Real chads buy toner.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Better pro-life tip.

1)Buy a laser printer instead of inkjet and never worry about ink again.

That's it. That's the only step.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Another way they get you: the ink cartridges that come with new printers are often only half full.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I had to print maybe 3 times in the last 10 years and just used one of those coin operated printer things. Does anyone still print that much to justify owning a printer?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Yes. But I use a cheap Brother laser printer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Or you can buy a safety razor and a 100 pack of blades and never have to think about razors again for the rest of your life.

Shaving is one of the most basic of human grooming techniques going back hundreds of years, we figured that shit out ages ago. Ignore Gillette's marketing, ignore BIC's "cheap" prices. Just get a no-name safety razor and some blades and you'll be sorted for the rest of your life. You don't need fancy shaving creams either, lather up some soap and rub it all over your face. Done. Easy. Cheap. Sustainable. Now you can use your time on picking your nose or playing video games or whatever you wanna do for fun!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Move over shockedpikachu.jpg

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