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Paper in Nature Climate Change journal reveals major role wealthy emitters play in driving climate extremes

The world’s wealthiest 10% are responsible for two-thirds of global heating since 1990, driving droughts and heatwaves in the poorest parts of the world, according to a study.

While researchers have previously shown that higher income groups emit disproportionately large amounts of greenhouse gases, the latest survey is the first to try to pin down how that inequality translates into responsibility for climate breakdown. It offers a powerful argument for climate finance and wealth taxes by attempting to give an evidential basis for how many people in the developed world – including more than 50% of full-time employees in the UK – bear a heightened responsibility for the climate disasters affecting people who can least afford it.

“Our study shows that extreme climate impacts are not just the result of abstract global emissions; instead we can directly link them to our lifestyle and investment choices, which in turn are linked to wealth,” said Sarah Schöngart, a climate modelling analyst and the study’s lead author.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Context and after some searching

  • Global Top 10% Wealth: ~$93,170 (2018)).

  • Global Top 10% Income: ~$39,382 annually (PPP-adjusted).

Wealth source

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/how-much-money-you-need-to-be-in-the-richest-10-percent-worldwide.html

Income source

https://wid.world/income-comparator/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I immediately started searching this up on seeing the article. Should've known someone in the comments already beat me to it. Thanks for the links!

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

The threshold to be in the top 10% is €42,980 or $49,000 (grossing from what I can tell).

The top 1% and 0.1% for comparison are 20x and 76x.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, what people forget is that even average americans (and central/northern europeans and some other plaves) are quite wealthy from a global perspective. Many people on lemmy, self included, are in that global 10%.

And many of those emissions aren't something you can just avoid either, they often come as a result of being a user of local infrastructure etc.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And half the time they get mad when you point it out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In fairness, what are they going to do about being born into a richer slice of the world pie? As shitty as it is, people won't have much sympathy for those doing worse than them unless they've achieved a certain baseline. If they can't conceive of how life could be worse (many issues in this fragment), they won't accept or care that others are suffering.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

At the very least, us 10%ers could be advocating for things that lower the carbon cost of our lifestyle, such as zoning reform.

Note that I'm not talking about reducing the quality of our lifestyle. I'm talking about maintaining or improving the quality while making it more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It's true. And we should all be doing that. If you're in the US, I promise you there are people in your community/local government who are desperate for any sort of support. Build bike lanes, build community gardens, help your neighbors. A lot of them need it.

My previous statement was purely in reply to people getting mad when you point out that they're in a certain percentile. Realistically, what do you expect people to do with that information? What you're basically telling them is that in Sudan, they'd be the kings of the castle. But that's kind of useless information to someone living in middle of nowhere Kentucky, for example.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

If my taxes would go towards make that infrastructure sustainable, i would happily pay more taxes. As it stands my taxes mostly go to more Autobahn, upkeep of parking spots, subsidies for desastrous industries and cross-financing the retirement insurance, so the boomers can go on cruise vacations.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Is there a source for this?

This was my assumption, but when I searched earlier, I could only find sources citing the top 12% was above $100k

Wiki - Distribution of Wealth

I'm assuming I've misunderstood something.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

The article talks about income (the headline seems a bit confusing), the wiki about net worth?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

According to Wikipedia, citing the 2022 US census, median annual personal income is $48k, meaning the average american is right on that line.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, likely everyone in the developed world, not just billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No most people in the developed nations earn less than this. It's heavily biased towards Americans and high earners, the typical just above the minimum wage earner isn't in this group.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Can we do top 1% so that I don't feel included?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nice to see the phrase "global heating" instead of the wimpy "global warming" or the even more milquetoasty "climate change". I prefer the phrase "anthropogenic runaway global heating" because it makes clear the scale and severity of the problem as well as its origin, and also for the handy acronym.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I sometimes call it "planet destruction" or "stupidity of mankind"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but those phrases can apply to a whole lot of things.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Wealth is the great filter

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Context and after some searching

  • Global Top 10% Wealth: ~$93,170 (2018)).

  • Global Top 10% Income: ~$39,382 annually (PPP-adjusted).

Wealth source

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/07/how-much-money-you-need-to-be-in-the-richest-10-percent-worldwide.html

Income source

https://wid.world/income-comparator/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Two-thirds of global heating caused by us here, study suggests (shocker)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

And in other news water is still wet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

What do we do, set our inflation target to -2% instead?

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