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there's a lot going on in this article, but this part in particular is... uhh ... a really special form of religious virtue...
I wish had no scruples because then I could sell people angels for $1,000
I love how the most devout Christians are always always complete shitheads
Easy to forget that Bush and Reagan also had these Faith Based Initiative and religious themed cabinet positions. And they were also primarily about funneling state money to religious demagogues. And then Clinton/Obama kept them around because they didn't want to offend the religious extremists.
The large network of Crisis Intervention Centers that effectively exist to abuse young people with poor grades, substance abuse issues, and non-conforming gender/sexual preferences were all originally bankrolled by Reagan/Bush Era pilot programs and church kickbacks.
Christianity has done more harm to modern society than drugs ever could
Religion is a plague
To be fair Christianity isn't the problem. Christian nationalism is the problem. Most Christians I know aren't this shitty. I say this as a hardcore atheist.
All of this is spelled out in project 2025. If you want to know what's coming next, just look at their website.
Just wait until they start banning porn. It's already started in some states tbh.
Canada almost had the same thing happen, but thankfully Poilievre didn't win PM, and even lost his seat too as a bonus.
Something I'm confused about: if Republicans believe government policy should be based on Christian values, why are they against government programs helping the poor?
They believe in the bible/Christianity insofar that it affirms their preconceived notions.
They just believe in the most hateful parts they can cherrypick to fit their ideology. Putting women, gays, blacks and the non-believers in their place.
Sooner forget about the separation of his head from his shoulders but that ain't happening either
It's really funny to me that all the "Christians" in government literally have none of the values Christ did. I'll bet if I asked them what their favorite Bible verse was they couldn't answer.
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
-President Trump, just this year.
He never meant it. And all of the cons hate ACTUAL freedom. Meaning, the kind of freedom that includes freedom FROM religion. Not just the "freedom" to select from a set of talibangelical cults.
He didn't even touch the Bible when he swore in this time. I doubt that means anything "legally speaking", but I'm sure it meant something to him
I'd like to just forget about the church altogether
A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve.
The idea that Christianity in the US is under threat and needs additional protections, is some epic persecution complex.
A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve
That they can pretend to solve.
when your only skills are being angry and stupid you have to get creative
Under threat? Because it's declining in popularity? Sounds like the will of the people if you ask me.
That and the least amount of their privilege being questioned/ignored/dethroned is what they hate the very most.
They don't WANT people to have a right to choose to ignore their little book club. They don't believe in this country, which is secular. They want xtian Shariah law to be the law of the land, which violates the very principles of this country.
I had an old boss tell me that Christians are the most persecuted people on earth. They truly believe it and get off on it. All while existing in a country where you almost have to be Christian or at least Jewish to be elected to national office. It's pure mass delusion propaganda.
I am a religious person even and this is insane. Do these people not read the Good Book? Trump is clearly the antichrist. And still all these chodes have... simp-pathy for the devil (because they simp so hard. I tried really hard to make that joke work this is the best I can do.)
That's because Trump thinks that he is god
The final form of conservative regimes always resorts to imposing religion and rigid moral codes in order to suffocate any form of dissent. Conservatives have been painting themselves as the "rebels" in their manufactured culture wars and the warriors of freeze peach, but in the end it always funnels back to this: Bible authoritarianism. They will use this argument for push for more censorship, information control, stripping away rights and oppressing every community they deem against their dogmas. The writing has been on the wall for a decade now.
I am hoping that America's new implementation of this "Christian state" proves to be grotesque enough to serve as a warning for the rest of the world that even had the fleeting thought of going down this route. And I while am not very hopeful for Americans, I wish they find the strength to resist and revolt against this movement.
Bible authoritarianism.
Based on one very specific "interpretation" of the Bible that nobody is allowed to argue against.
What the actual fuck.
There is this global retreat from rationality it seems.
Why do I need a church?
So I occasionally check the Fox News site just to see what the idiot commenters say because I find it sad yet entertaining...anyway for the article that was posted about htis issue several people were like "this is a good thing, because sepration of church and state isn't in teh constitution" like bruh have you read the constiutuion? It's literally stated in teh first amendment xD
Amendments aren't part of the constitution... except the 2nd!
Well then Allah be praised!
/S
This is a complete upheaval of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution per Wikipedia's entry on Separation of church and state:
Jefferson and the Bill of Rights
In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.[6]
Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions against the political establishment of religion. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.
The metaphor "a wall of separation between Church and State" used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson's collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.[30]
As an atheist that agrees more with Buddhism and Paganism than any organized religion this infuriating. I went to Catholic Church and school for 18 years of my life, I know what it's like to be "forced" to believe in something you don't.
Are they going to keep records of who goes to what churches and arrest people if they don't go to the correct church at the correct time and day?
I don't give a shit what anyone believes as long as they are not an asshole, that's their own business. I've had people try to shove their religion on me and it's not fun. If I had the financial means to leave this country I absolutely would now even if I was a Christian and went to church every Sunday.
This is REALLY freaking dangerous and scary on top of all the REALLY freaking dangerous and scary other bullshit Orange Man and his Disciples of Dumbasses have been doing since January 20th.
Like we should listen to this asshole.
Yeah, let's just ignore the First fucking Amendment and basically any freedom that actually matters. Go fuck yourself.
well he does also want to become pope. maybe he wants to multi class but what we really wish is if he dual classed.
Maybe if they bring back the church into politics he will learn who this Jesus guy is who everyone is talking about. Might be surprised that he was a "radical leftist"
White supply-side Jesus is different from biblical Jesus which is different from historical Jesus.
He means American evangelist Christianity. Which is just capitalism with god. They are more interested on social control of masses and collecting tithe than any actual idealism.
It's incredible that the U.S. is having this discussion again. What's the point—bringing creationism back to schools or stoning prostitutes?
GOP politics and agenda are all about control. And religion historically has always been a means of control. Add a more aggressive form of indoctrination instead of education in schools so that you have young people just smart enough to profitable but brainwashed into not being free thinkers who go tribal against anyone against their tribe. Once you have people replacing morality with religion you can alter that religion to match what ever you want as a means of control.
The Christian Right wants to make Christianity supreme and use it as the basis to take away rights of minorities including Muslims and LGBT. They want this as cover to take away sex ed and ban pornography and rap music and a long list of other stuff. Project 2025 laid it out pretty explicitly.
The point is replacing a somewhat transparent legal system with an arbitrary mess which makes everyone that isn't exactly on the politically desired line feel uneasy all the time due to uncertainty of state actions.
"Our Country." Is just his White America/Klansmen base. We need that separation more than ever.
Trump needs a bunch of people willing to believe anything told to then and the religious crowd seems to have an endless appetite for rage inducing bullshit.
I will never forget.