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Donald Trump's interview showed us he's willing to argue that the letters and numbers MS 13 are not Photoshopped in this picture 😆


Originally Posted By u/Midnight_Warrior89 At 2025-04-30 05:29:07 AM | Source


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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Whats more important is that the entire thread of conversation is fucking irrelevant. You cannot just put a label on someone and say they cant have their day in court because of the label, that is literally fascism.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

I really appreciate you saying this. We’re all focusing on the photoshop, but missing the fascism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They’re fucking masters at using ad hominem to derail the conversation. Just look at George Floyd or Kyle Rittenhouse. With Floyd, they dragged up his entire history to justify murder. With Rittenhouse, they excused a psychopath who drove an hour and a half with the intention of killing protestors by spreading lies that his victims were pedophiles or criminals as if that retroactively justifies vigilantism.

And now they're doing it all over again. If they throw a scary enough label at this guy people will retroactively support their decision to throw out due process and send the super scary gang member off the gulag. It’s never about truth or justice. It’s about justifying state violence and empowering the people who carry it out. If they can dehumanize someone enough, suddenly due process doesn’t matter. That’s fascism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

It works because humanity is fucking stupid...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I absolutely thought the “MS13” was being portrayed as labels for what the actual tattoos meant. That he was claiming they were actual additional tattoos is utterly bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like Photoshopped isn't really the right word here, you can very easily do much much better using Photoshop. I believe this was actually done using Microsoft Word, just pasted in the image and dragging the letters on there as textboxes. Maybe even Outlook or something, it looks terrible

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

I honestly believe his staff quickly threw the labels on as nonsensical interpretations, but after trump believed those labels were inked on Garcia's knuckles they've just rolled with it. Weaponized stupidity to the extreme.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Can someone explain how these symbols are supposed to represent "MS-13"? I'm trying, but I can't get further than "M is for Marijuana"... S is for Smile? 1 is for Cross?? 3 is for Skull??? What in the numerology is going on...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No one can explain it because it's nonsense. Back before trump was a thing, I saw a documentary on MS-13 - their tattoos were not subtle or coded. Many members had it literally written across their face or chest.

Edit- to be clear - stylized writing, not #000 Arial 16

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) is a criminal ("terrorist", now) organization out of California. It was initially made up of Salvadoran teenagers that escaped the country during civil war back in the 80s, as they banded together forming street gangs to fight and protect themselves from the larger LA gangs that would extort migrants. Over time the gang evolved into a full criminal organization while expanding to activities like international trafficking, kidnapping and murder.

If you want to know more, reading history of Ernesto Deras is a good place to start.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

3 units worse than ms 13.

Three. ENTIRE. Units.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Sorry, typo. But what's ms 13?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

No one can explain it because it's fucking nonsense. MS13 tattoos aren't exactly known for their subtlety.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The two eye sockets and nose represent 3 holes. Supposedly this is a gang symbol, but I haven't seen any sources stating that before this image came out.*

*all of which remains irrelevant outside of a courtroom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

1 because our boi JC is #1 and the skull is a 3. Trust me bro.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Before I get into my comment, I want to reiterate that it does not matter what his tattoos do or do not say, that he was kidnapped and illegally deported, and now they are using false ‘evidence’ to prove their case, without ever having held a trial? This is fascism. What has happened to him is illegal, and he deserves justice. He should be returned, and everyone who had a hand in this should be brought to justice.

… Anyway.

I find it funny that we’re supposed to believe a Salvadoran immigrant used such Byzantine symbology to represent the wrong fucking acronym.

The MS stands for Mara Salvatrucha, said to be a combination of Mara, meaning gang, Salva, for Salvador, and trucha, which translates roughly into street smarts. The 13 represents the position of M in the alphabet. — MS-13 gang: The story behind one of the world's most brutal street gangs - BBC

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

So wait is he saying the spelling “MS13” wasn’t photoshopped or the awesome artwork on the fingers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why did they label the tattoos in super tiny font?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

They were trying to show Trumplestiltskin that those symbols are actually meant to be hidden letters/numbers.

  1. They aren't.
  2. MS13 does not hide the name, they get it tattooed in large letters.

Trump was then arguing that the tiny little letters were actually on his hand. He argued about it for 5 minutes. Total. Fucking. Moron.