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I got to be honest. The NDP are like some anime hero in this election sacrificing it all so the main protagonist can beat the villian
this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2025
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-Mass immigration and loosening regulation so temporary students can work 40 hours a week when we finally had wage pressure, as people asked for simple cost of living adjustments after massive asset price inflation and corporate revenue.
-Allowing unions to be forced back to work, eliminating all bargaining for wages.
-Ignoring the cost of living increases from QE and unfunded stimulus, by not taxing the rich a dime to pay for any of it.
Am I wrong in any of this, I'd love a carefully thought out retort that isn't Cons bad.
I don't know if I'll say you're wrong but I will say that that feels like half a comment and you might have forgotten to add the part where you weave it all together. Or make it relate to the previous comments.
The NDP started as a merger of labor party, saying they are a hero after a decade of abandoning labor seems silly to me. Thats how it ties together.
The NDP who brought us universal healthcare actually fully funded everything via taxes, the current incarnation of the NDP didnt fund a single program they created, meaning it is funded with future austerity with interest and inflation.
Wow NDP is getting closer to the Liberals, might as well vote Liberal.
Why do they keep shifting center?!!?
While I was not a huge fan of Jagmeet, I don't think he was a bad leader. The Federal NDP had a tough go at this election as I am sure many people who would traditionally vote NDP voted to keep conservatives out of power and marked the Red Box. I certainly did.
I voted NDP, for premiere, and MP. My riding voted for conservative for both.
It's really unfortunate that the largest party chooses PM instead of being able to just form a coalition of small parties, if I understand it correctly? Also super unfortunate that the PM then recommends Senators with lifetime appointments up to age 75.
It's actually kind of miraculous that Canada has been so much more progressive than the USA with that kind of system.
They were losing popularity before the elections were called though. The losses are because of the circle around the flag effect, but their unpopularity is not.
I don't disagree. They missed a huge opportunity to be the opposition people turned to in this instance when people didn't want either of the big two.
I'm sorry, wasn't aware.
I usually post CBC, but they break metadata embedding on Lemmy.
Here friend! Some of the Non Canadian owned new outlets and the Canadian owned when reading getting your information.
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Taking bets on how long universal healthcare lasts now that Liberals can wave "It's us or fascism/annexation" forever.
What makes you think the liberals want to end universal health care?
Yeah, someone's confusing the parties goals here
Lol
It's right in the name.
You do realize the Liberals have a minority that the few NDP seats can still keep in power? The hammer the NDP wield right now is vastly disproportionate to the very small number of seats they hold.
I was hoping the ndp couldn't help alone, and the liberals would need to work with the BQ, but my hopes were dashed.
Good bye Jagmeet. Even though I never liked you as leader of NDP, your policies were a welcome change in an atrophied left ecosystem. Thank you.
first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis
I like Singh but the results speaks for itself. There is no chance of NPD growing under him despite him doing a great job in my opinion. I am glad that he thought about people before the party and himself
I think he'll have a great legacy in hindsight. The important policy accomplishments of the NDP while he was leader will hopefully last for generations.
For comparison, what policy accomplishments have the official opposition had in the last ten years, and what accomplishments will they have under a Carney government? The CPC has more than 10× the number of seats the NDP does now, but as a party they have had a lost decade in terms of policy impact whereas the NDP has scored big wins.
The NDP will hopefully have a comeback next election. I would guess they will.
Finally.
I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.
That’s not enough in politics, sadly.
Politics is war by other means. It’s every bit as complex and strategic, it’s just not as obvious.
The NDP has been lost in the wilderness as a party for a long time. They’ve spent far too much energy and credibility complaining about vote-splitting and electoral reform. They haven’t done the serious work to present themselves as a credible alternative to the Liberals, the way Jack Layton did.
I can't wait to see who's going to be their next leader.
He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it's defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.
I agree generally agree with you but charisma is so subjective. A lot of people think that trump is charismatic but to me he isn't t all. Many think Carney is not charismatic but he is to me.
trump had branding before he became president, so that pretty much helped him.
Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let's talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)
But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you'd expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.
100% glass ceiling. He gained quite a bit of popularity in 2021 because of how charismatic he is. I think a lot of people aren't willing to admit it, but Canada just isn't ready for a PM that looks like him (or rather, that doesn't look like previous PMs).
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While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It's like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.
rarely any actual constructive or original ideas
My mom's getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.
They need to come up with their own identity
They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.
instead of basing it on the opposite of another.
You confusing the orange with the blue?
That you think this means the NDP is not getting their message out.
I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.
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I loved him, but he tossed Jessica Wetz under the bus and the next day, he was posting thirst traps on TikTok.
On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:
- Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
- Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
- NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South
On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:
- Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
- Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
- NDP headed by ? out of ?
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Thanks for finally doing the right thing, Jagmeet! It only took your complete and utter defeat and losing official party status... but I guess it's better late than never. (Please elect a socialist leader now.)
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