this post was submitted on 28 Apr 2025
532 points (98.4% liked)

Not The Onion

16011 readers
1309 users here now

Welcome

We're not The Onion! Not affiliated with them in any way! Not operated by them in any way! All the news here is real!

The Rules

Posts must be:

  1. Links to news stories from...
  2. ...credible sources, with...
  3. ...their original headlines, that...
  4. ...would make people who see the headline think, “That has got to be a story from The Onion, America’s Finest News Source.”

Please also avoid duplicates.

Comments and post content must abide by the server rules for Lemmy.world and generally abstain from trollish, bigoted, or otherwise disruptive behavior that makes this community less fun for everyone.

And that’s basically it!

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

MAGA fans are rejoicing on social media in favor of President Donald Trump's plan to sign an executive order requiring commercial truck drivers to speak English.

Breitbart News reported that Trump would sign the order Monday evening because "President Trump believes that English is a non-negotiable safety requirement for professional drivers." Last month, Trump designated English as "the official language of the United States."

"This is such a big deal! So grateful for this, the roads will be much safer. Like many, I have seen many accidents or near accidents from unqualified drivers," posted @coffeegirlvegas.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Not sure about other states, but in mine, the ability to read and understand English is a requirement for getting a license...

Now you could make an argument that's not the same as speaking English, and my rebuttal is "should we ban mute, or speech-impared people from getting a CDL"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I'm not really clear how they would even enforce this. They don't have a database or standard test for speaking english.

FBI: "Do you speak english?"

Driver: "Sí señor. Aber ich lerne auch Deutsch."

FBI: "Fatastich. Guten Abend."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

, and my rebuttal is “should we ban mute, or speech-impared people from getting a CDL”?

Well those people are already Undesirables under the rule of el trumpo, so their answer is... yeah?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Like many, I have seen many accidents or near accidents from unqualified drivers

Can anyone explain how knowing English would reduce traffic accidents? Is it because of detour signs?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

In the US, traffic signs with crucial information are often written in only English text, no symbols, pictograms or anything else that could make it possible to guess what the sign is saying without being able to read English.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Can you please elaborate with some examples if possible? I'm trying to picture this from highways and roadways here in Florida, but I am struggling to get your gist. I will look again on the way home tonight. However I am not a trucker or cdl so I might be oblivious to some.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

This video, Why US Signs Look Different Than The Rest Of The World’s, contains a lot of examples of such US road signs that depend on English text to convey their message:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzr0GYfRsKI

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

*sniff sniff*

Smells like your food is about to cost even more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago

Trump can't even speak English.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Which will be ignored like the rest of his Executive Orders that don't actually have anything to do with the Executive.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

As always another trump "policy" that'll backfire spectacularly

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

Probably won't matter much. No ships means nothing to haul

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

If it were enforced, yes. But let's be real.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is there any such requirement for ships in international waters?

English seems a bit too narrow, but I could see one of maybe 10 languages being a requirement (English, Spanish, French, German, Arabic, Mandarin, Russian, Portuguese, etc)

Or perhaps, like the UN requires, at least three on this list.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Not sure about ocean shipping, but English is the standard language for Air Traffic Control. Specifically, Aviation English, but that came about through a specific need. The dangers of an air traffic accident are much higher, the training requirements for an air traffic controller or pilot already more involved then a truck driver, and English being the most spoken language in the word, when you include second and third languages, made English being the standard the most logical. I don't know Aviation English, but I would assume it strips out any regional slag or local idioms.

Truck drivers don't need a common language because traffic signage is designed to be readable without knowing being fluent in the language. If you can read the numbers and memorize what the sign shapes mean, you're fine. If something goes wrong, you can pull off to the side. Something you can't just do in an airplane.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Who the fuck is supposed to drive the trucks then? I live in (upstate) New York and it seems like even up there a significant population of Mexican truck drivers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

Here, if they don't speak English, they are almost all Eastern European or Indian. Lots of Russian, Belarusian, Chechen, etc

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

How does being Mexican mean you don't speak English? Have you never met a bilingual person in your life?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I don't think I said they don't speak English. It's usually pretty broken in my experience. They're usually just guys who work long hours at a hard job.

I've actually seen deliveries from all sorts of immigrant drivers, Ukrainian stands out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

If you ever followed American politics throughout history, you can see how this can easily be abused. Before, you had to take a test to determine if you were smart enough to vote. The test was the same for both whites and minorities, but it was graded differently depending on your race.

What defines "speaking English"?. Is it a basic level, being able to read road signs or being able to speak to dispatch, the loading crew, or ems at a fundamental level? Or is it college level? Will you even be tested if you're white?

With trumps many many anti-minority policies and rhetoric, and his abuse of ice, as well as setting up black sites and selling people to the El Salvadoran concentration camp, it's hard not to think that this will be abused in some way. This is in no way a pro-English law. This is an anti-minority law.

However, cause of how dot and cdls are set up now, I doubt that much will come out of it tbh

[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago

Good thing we won't need so many of those when supply chains dry up from tariffs!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Breitbart News reported that

"News"

[–] [email protected] 73 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I have a CDL, Class A with X endorsement.

This changes nothing. CDL manuals, exams, and paperwork are all in English. What I think Trump thinks he's doing is banning Mexicans from driving trucks in the US, but this is controlled by a reciprocity agreement between the US and Mexico. Surprise, Mexicans don't have to take American exams for a CDL when they can have a license issued by the Mexican government.

Basically all this is is white supremacist virtue signaling.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah you're still thinking about it within the the UN/long peace legal framework. They can just do a decree that says no mexicans, and their extrajudidical thugs will take the signal to harass and murder truck drivers.

B-but that's illegal ☝️🤓

Are you going to stop them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Are you going to stop them?

Truck drivers aren't the most progressive, but if they see fellow drivers getting harassed/attacked by four wheelers you can bet your ass they're gonna go Mad Max on their asses for that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

I hope so 🙏

[–] [email protected] 14 points 16 hours ago

I would love to see the US go a month without Mexican truck drivers. The UK pulled the same stunt with Polish truck drivers. People were rejoicing at empty shelves and overflowing garbage bins.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

So…. Let’s get this straight… he is signing orders to make things happen that have been happening for almost a century now??

What’s next, an executive order to make air breathable??

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 hours ago

Oh definitely not - he has been attacking the Clean Air act.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm assuming it's just a way to sneak literacy tests into something. You can speak english, but can you speak it well enough to pass a subjective test administered by someone who hates you for being hispanic?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Classic authoritarian tactics:

Target a marginalized group with an issue that you've framed as ridiculous or politically suicidal to disagree with, get public opinion riled up by manipulating their grievances through exploiting their internal prejudices, and make everything an extension of preserving national security. Once you've manipulated enough people into giving you extralegal power, simply expand the circle of 'national security threats'.

In just a few months we've watched Trump:

steal the power of the purse and the power to enact tariffs from Congress,

create a precedent for the unconstitutional arrest, detainment, and removal of legal residents and dissenting citizens,

iterate his intentions to restart American expansionism into Canada and Greenland,

Successfully twist the arm of media companies, law firms, and universities into doing his bidding,

And his other executive order directs Dept. Of Homeland Security, DoJ, and DoD to create a plan for implementation of military and national security assets to "prevent crime and protect public safety".

Welcome to the 'find out' stage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Not in Trump's America. Making breathability a requirement could limit some broligarch's freedom to do business.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 21 hours ago (15 children)
load more comments (15 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›