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This might be unpopular here, but there are sometimes problems for people who use marijuana. Sometimes naming something can help us be aware of issues we didn't realize were in place.

To have cannabis use disorder, or CUD, a person must have two or more of such symptoms as craving weed, becoming tolerant, using more than intended, using marijuana even though it causes problems in life, using it in high-risk situations, experiencing withdrawal and being unable to quit, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, isn't alcoholism common in every state where alcohol is sold (read: all of them)?

Not discounting the study, but it seems like it's just pearl-clutching.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Like the statistic that your brain is still developing until the age of 26. Weed, too much. War (and everything else you can think of legally required at the age of 18), come on down!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Your brain is still developing until you die. That statistic is such garbage

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Let's not forget "consent" around 16 or so (12+ in some welfare states, IIRC?🤮🫩)... Can't die "for your country" yet, but feel free to squirt out a passel of morons while you wait for your shot at glory. 🤬

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

so basically - per the CUD symptoms, simply enjoying weed means you have this horrible affliction

this is reefer madness 2025 😂

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I blame D&D, frankly.

If us RPG geeks has just kept it super-uncool for just a little while longer, maybe these puritanical fuckstains would've kept their focus on us and left our friendly Scoobies & Shaggies out there alone. 🙇🏽‍♂️

Sorry, y'all. I did nazi this coming: weed legal and gamers get laid on the reg? Thafuq timeline did I grow up into? (Still, no jetpack, hover boards, or UBI, so... 🤷🏼‍♂️)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

using marijuana even though it causes problems in life, using it in high-risk situations

I think these two are important to avoid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Except, swap in another word instead, and the statement is still true. Logical fallacies. Memorize them, train yourself to recognize them, and maybe just maybe it'll help filter out propagandist bullshit. Maybe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anti-cannabis propaganda does not belong here

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I'm pro cannabis. But the myth that nobody on cannabis has problems with their use is stupid.

That message belongs here, where people who use visit, so someone who wonders why they don't feel as great as you can see they're not alone.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Reads like copoganda, stoned people liking getting stoned isn't news.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I suffer from wanting to avoid my shitty unending pain use disorder.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You are correct, naming something can help people or users be aware. Especially when that condition may not be known yet.

Naming something should not make a substance illegal nor should that be the goal. The goal is to spread awareness and knowledge.

The term coined as second hand smoke is a example of this. It brought awareness to something that may not have been common knowledge at the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And I am, by no means, saying that pot use itself is a problem. I'm saying some people who use pot have a problem with it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Right. And know that I'm not attacking the messenger here.

It's like some people have a drinking problem. For some people it's gambling. Other people, it's shopping, pills, Beanie Babies, masturbating, take your pick. Anything can be an addition, and any addiction can cause problems in life.

I think the negative response to this from the cannabis crowd is that these studies, regardless of their intentions, are pretty much always trotted out by the opposition to legalization. "See?? It's bad so keep it illegal / re-illegalize it. Won't someone please think of the children?!"

Basically, we assume this is going to be used against us.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was posting it from the perspective that it is becoming ubiquitous, and legalization is becoming a mute point, especially since the farm bill of 2018. The door is open, the horse is loose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

*moot point, unless you meant it has no volume

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Yep, got it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well, I live in a shithole state where it's probably never going to be legalized, so "ubiquitous" is a bit optimistic lol.

especially since the farm bill of 2018.

My state criminalized D8 in 2023, and I believe the farm bill has expired or is expiring this year. I know a lot of shitty red states were pissed about the loophole, so I don't have faith it's going to remain.

We don't even have citizen-initiated ballot measures, so we can't even be like our neighbor Ohio and get it that way. Did I mention my state was a shithole? If not, let me make it abundantly clear that WV is a shithole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I was agreeing, and am agreeing with you.

People should have the right to make their own decisions (as long as those decisions do not harm others). I also believe everyone should have access to all available information, and "naming" helps build that knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Of all the places to post reefer maddness, you pick trees lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Free will means the freedom to make the wrong choices. This is simply the cost of liberty.