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Now comes the ‘womanosphere’: the anti-feminist media telling women to be thin, fertile and Republican (www.theguardian.com)
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A crop of conservative personalities such as Brett Cooper and Candace Owens, and outlets like Evie, are convincing young women of a gender-essentialist worldview

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago

Anyone who listens to obvious Hypocrites like them will only suffer. If they believe in this message so much. They should give up their media positions and all go home and make a sandwich for their husbands. No disrespect to any man or woman who does that. It should be your choice. But not your destiny and role in life. It's absurd that they act like the feminism implies that a woman can't do that if she wishes to.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 week ago

These WOMEN need to GET BACK into the Kitchen!

-LITERALLY These Women!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

I fart in your general direction.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Now? Women being told to be thin, be docile, etc is not new. It never stopped.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

How does one “be fertile”? You either are, or you aren’t. I guess they’re saying they should just have lots of babies? Anyhow, gross, just like the other online grifts/psyops.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My guess is that it's anti-contraceptive garbage.

The pill = no babies = not fertile = not a real woman.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah after I wrote that later on it sorta just popped up — oh this is probably just meaning “don’t take birth control”.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Double edged grift! Suffer by feeling you’re not being “womanly” enough no matter what you do, and only feel minorly deserving of praise once you’ve depleted yourself of all your own efforts and self esteem 🤡 that way you’re willing to buy whatever snake oil they’re selling.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's big pharma propoganda pushing fertility drugs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Ah yeah, forgot that angle. My partner was researching that recently, that shit is expensive (not to mention any unpleasant side effects you might have on it). I can’t imagine a plausible scenario where young, non-married women who aren’t already actively trying to get pregnant would just take that stuff though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I mean, its fine to try to be healthy and exercise daily, but that activity doesn't necessarily mean you'll be thin, fertile, or Republican.

For any young women reading this, I hope you understand that you aren't obligated to conform to any standard at all. I hope you are happy, healthy, and have great friends / family who look out for you and support you for you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I don’t remember the original author of the quote but there goes a wise saying as follows:

“You don’t owe the world being pretty as rent for existing as a woman.” The same goes for reproduction, childcare, or any other unpaid labor.

By virtue of being human you are owed the bare minimum basic rights of dignity and respect to your personhood.

You never need to apologize for being a woman and anyone who acts like you do, especially if you dare not conform to their ideals, can go lick the bottom of a crusty shoe.

(And in case this isn’t clear; I mean ALL women. TERFs fuck off)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

If you are too thin and active your cycle can get all fucky!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For some reason women are all doing weighted hip thrusts at the gym. I guess it enlargens your glutes, but it's fuckin' weird. Must be some tiktok shit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Kettlebell swings are where it's at. Source: did lots of kettlebell swings, booty is thick

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

The manosphere worked to indoctrinate men because it seemed to give solution for their anger and "empower" them, though the way it did was shitty.

There is no empowering through the "womanosphere". It is yet another stupid box they want to shove women into. The movements are far from equal in any discernible way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

"womanosphere" is a distractingly bad name

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Real men make women sandwichs

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Mmm ... woman sandwich ...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I know I shouldn't dox other users, but I think I just found Armie Hammer's account.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Hey now, only good boys deserve those.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

If you step back and put on your Marco View lens, you finally seeing how money and power controls Americans and seeing capitalism tactics. Remember those “10 ways to get skinny” or “how to have better sex?” Magazines in the grocery store? That’s them being in the open now. Oh and today’s version is 90% influencers and YouTubers. Damn snake oil sales people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Woe-manosphere

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

do these jackasses even know the cost of buying a box of diapers?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Will this work?

That's more my concern, because if you can convince the women to do it, and you have the men ingrained in manosphere you can do a lot of damage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Yes it already works. Conservative women have existed and continue to exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Femisphere, surely.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago

1/3
I can go with thin.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nothing bad about being thin tbh. Men should strive for that as well. Obesity is unhealthy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nothing bad about being thin tbh.

Agreed. There is nothing wrong about being thin.

Men should strive for that as well. Obesity is unhealthy.

No, thinness in and of itself isn't something to pursue other than for vanity. A person isn't made any healthier by magically becoming thin. I've seen that with my own eyes, knowing someone who has had bariatric surgery and lost 165 lbs.

And if someone is pursuing it out of vanity, significant weight loss will age your appearance considerably.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A person isn’t made any healthier by magically becoming thin.

Not really true. Your joints will thank you for the lower weight they have to support. However, I do agree that that is not the good way. You should work out and eat less junk food/sweets/fatty stuff. Doing that will make you healthier, and getting thin is a natural byproduct of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And what about body builders that have 200pounds of muscle... are they "unhealthy"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

They will certainly have some problems later on. Many professional body builders are having joint and bone issues. Markus Rühl once gave an interview where he said (roughly translated) "My body is basically a wreck. My body is just kept together by the muscles".

However, muscles are also supporting the body, fat doesn't. So while having excessive muscles will be a problem at some point, being fat is a much bigger problem much earlier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Less weight on the joints sure, but reactive hypoglycemia and iron deficiency also. Less weight on the joint can help you pursue health by making activity less destructive to joints, but if you don't become more active, being thin does nothing by itself. Sounds like we are largely in agreement but I don't think being thin is a goal at all. Obesity is a bar set too low. I think my wife might be back to obese at 150lbs, and she is still thin af to me. Sex sucked when she was skin and bones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

being thin does nothing by itself

Yes, basically. You have to pursue the healthy lifestyle that leads to being thing is what I'm trying to say.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thinner does not equate health, one can not be truly healthy while obese. It is Terrible for your body. Pretty much every organ system is working overtime and struggling. There is inflammation everywhere, your joints are suffering.

The healthy at any size stuff is a massive lie.

Yes, skinny people and regular sized people get sick too. Just like people who don't smoke can still get lung cancer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Obesity is set too low. See other comment I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Being overweight is unhealthy. No amount of propaganda will change that.