This sounds like something an AI would write
Sure does
it'd be a funny bit if op used ai to write this
Everything under the line was chat gpt, everything above was chat gp me
lol i stumbled into the truth like inspector closeau!
I swear he did
as a frequent user of the em dash I find this whole AI tell thing distressing
Reminds me of this:
As an infrequent user of it, same.
I got a bit angry yesterday, when someone said (in the thread this is a continuation of): no human being uses em-dash.
Saying only AI uses these is dehumanizing.
I guess that I am autistic plays a role in me finding it really bad.
also conspicuously hidden hands in an image doesn't mean it's ai generated
hands are hard to draw ;_;
Google docs even does it for you automatically if you do two hyphens in a row
Outlook too
MS Word has done so for decades
And LaTeX
Finally ⸻ the 3-em dash will have its moment
Mmm
I don't care - stop using long dashes. It's a useless character and the less you use it the easier it is to discern AI slop without even having to think. It'll only be a year or two before ChatGPT stops using it, so don't undermine a very cool and assuredly temporary useful discernment tool.
A normal length dash does everything you want. You know why nobody knows em-dash existed before? Because nobody ever noticed you using it and everyone reads it as a normal dash.
You can have your em-dash back in a couple years.
W—R—O—N—G
I like these normal length dashes you used
Hyphens read completely differently IMO
When I see the short dash like in your text it doesn't read as a long pause to me but almost like you're combining care-stop, it doesn't have the same effect as –. I've seen them used in articles plenty before the rise of GPT text. I'm not sure it is necessarily a reliable tell for AI.
real writers use the hyphen - like this - instead because they can't be bothered to type an actual em dash and they've long since disabled any form of auto correct on any program they type into.
My autistic ass taking notes on how not to sound like AI when I write shit.
Funny how it used to be a shibboleth for lawyers and now it's a tell for AI. Em dashes are very useful punctuation marks though — being able to chain sentences together for longer than intended is very helpful for writing without thinking — what I do — or just being generally chaotic in writing.
just being generally chaotic in writing
ADHD thoughts within thoughts. Instead of using two layers of parentheses, substituting one for dashes.
I love using colons in a rare sort of way: like this. Like, the colon is followed by something that builds upon the first part, or some sort of comment on it or whatever: I love writing like one of those famous old authors whose writing styles are fucking weird. Like the author of Trainspotting: I’d be a great writer if I could write something meatier than a Mastodon post.
Lawyers 🤝 English majors
—Objection!
Fun fact, the em dash is also the standard punctuation for dialogues in books written in Portuguese, like:
"How are you?"
"Not very well," she answered.
— Como você está?
— Não muito bem — respondeu ela.
The quotation dash is also used in a number of other languages, I mainly see it in Norwegian-language news articles. You'll also find it in some older English-language works like Ulysses.
Yeah, but I do most of my long form writing on a keyboard, and I couldn't tell you how to type an em dash using a standard keyboard. I just googled it, "press and hold the Alt key while typing 0151 on the numeric keypad, and then release the Alt key", which doesn't seem to work. The fastest way I can find on a Windows 10+ PC is to hold win+.
then use the mouse to click the symbols tab, then select —, which is not efficient and not obvious.
Yeah, On the phone it's easy, but I because it has never been readily accessible as a standard key on the keyboard, I have no idea when I would even use it. So I just googled that as well.
I think the EM dash is a good indication that someone has been writing something in a proper word processor like Word or some other document tool. Word at least has a way for you to configure a shortcut key for the symbol. Which, in turn makes it also as likely that the text was produced by a LLM trained on oceans of text containing em dashes.
I could use something like Autohotkey to do replace a triple dash (---) with an em dash, and a double dash (--) with an en dash, but no one else is going to think to do something like that.
If someone is using an em dash casually, it's just suspicious because it really isn't that easy to access and I don't believe (outside professional writers) that most people even know why they would use them.
on linux it's compose key then three hyphens
on mac it's shift + option + one hyphen
like this —
Common Windows L.
The anti-ai hysteria on the site is getting a little silly, and I'm by no means an ai advocate.
Making people scared to type like they normally do to own the AI.
The woke left want to indoctrinate you with Alt(2014) em dashes—like these—but real patriots use the STRAIGHTNESS symbol⏤like that.
What's wrong with my line ~ it is all squiggly? Is it because I am gay?
It could go either way, but if it curls right up like this⏤𐐘⏤that's a big gay sign, though if it's more like 𐑀 then you're only a liitle gay.
Em persecution has to end
— hey yeah, it's a long press option on Android too
Hell, I’m an em dash enjoyer.
I did not know that — and I like using it so much too...
not a sign of AI? correct. easy to type? bullshit, i have to google and copy and paste them 😭 my real physical pc keyboard only has - and _ :(
Just say in the middle of your statement that billionaires should be shot and that will clear up provenance questions immediately!
Fun fact: you can tell which of my comments I wrote on my phone vs my laptop based on if I write -- (on my phone, because my Thumbkey layout doesn't have an em dash) or — (on my laptop, where I've added Emd for em dash as a custom dictionary entry in my Japanese IME)
In high school, an English teacher once told us she over used em dashes and her teacher told her you can't just dash through your papers. I tried to avoid their over use after that, which made me learn the other ways to organize my (chaotic) thoughts.
Needless to say, I think that it's a tell of young writers more than AI. The overuse is because the author isn't comfortable with using colons, parenthesis, or commas - the things that the em dash can substitute for grammatically.
A good writer understands offsetting with a dash adds more emphasis than commas (neutral) or parenthesis (lower emphasis). Overuse is a sign of either immaturity or AI. Since there's a lot of immature writers on the internet (and have been since the eternal summer began), it really isn't useful as a tell online.
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