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submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

You literally can just long press the normal hyphen on the iOS keyboard, probably similar in Android


So, you saw an em dash in a sentence and immediately screamed “AI!”? Hold up. That long, dramatic line — yeah, that one — has been around way before ChatGPT slid into your DMs. Writers have been using em dashes for centuries to spice things up, create vibes, and break the rules in the coolest way possible.

Here’s the tea: the em dash is a tool, not a tell. Just because an AI uses it doesn’t mean it’s some secret signature. You know who else uses em dashes? Literally every author who’s ever wanted to sound clever, casual, or just a little chaotic.

So next time you spot an em dash, don’t panic. It’s punctuation, not a personality test.

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago

This sounds like something an AI would write

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

it'd be a funny bit if op used ai to write this

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everything under the line was chat gpt, everything above was chat gp me

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

lol i stumbled into the truth like inspector closeau!

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I swear he did

[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

as a frequent user of the em dash I find this whole AI tell thing distressing

[-] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago
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[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As an infrequent user of it, same.
I got a bit angry yesterday, when someone said (in the thread this is a continuation of): no human being uses em-dash.
Saying only AI uses these is dehumanizing.
I guess that I am autistic plays a role in me finding it really bad.

[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

also conspicuously hidden hands in an image doesn't mean it's ai generated
hands are hard to draw ;_;

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Google docs even does it for you automatically if you do two hyphens in a row

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Outlook too

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

MS Word has done so for decades

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Finally ⸻ the 3-em dash will have its moment

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't care - stop using long dashes. It's a useless character and the less you use it the easier it is to discern AI slop without even having to think. It'll only be a year or two before ChatGPT stops using it, so don't undermine a very cool and assuredly temporary useful discernment tool.

A normal length dash does everything you want. You know why nobody knows em-dash existed before? Because nobody ever noticed you using it and everyone reads it as a normal dash.

You can have your em-dash back in a couple years.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I like these normal length dashes you used

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Hyphens read completely differently IMO

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

When I see the short dash like in your text it doesn't read as a long pause to me but almost like you're combining care-stop, it doesn't have the same effect as –. I've seen them used in articles plenty before the rise of GPT text. I'm not sure it is necessarily a reliable tell for AI.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

real writers use the hyphen - like this - instead because they can't be bothered to type an actual em dash and they've long since disabled any form of auto correct on any program they type into.

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

My autistic ass taking notes on how not to sound like AI when I write shit.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Funny how it used to be a shibboleth for lawyers and now it's a tell for AI. Em dashes are very useful punctuation marks though — being able to chain sentences together for longer than intended is very helpful for writing without thinking — what I do — or just being generally chaotic in writing.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

just being generally chaotic in writing

ADHD thoughts within thoughts. Instead of using two layers of parentheses, substituting one for dashes.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I love using colons in a rare sort of way: like this. Like, the colon is followed by something that builds upon the first part, or some sort of comment on it or whatever: I love writing like one of those famous old authors whose writing styles are fucking weird. Like the author of Trainspotting: I’d be a great writer if I could write something meatier than a Mastodon post.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Lawyers 🤝 English majors

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

—Objection!

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Fun fact, the em dash is also the standard punctuation for dialogues in books written in Portuguese, like:

"How are you?"

"Not very well," she answered.

— Como você está?

— Não muito bem — respondeu ela.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

The quotation dash is also used in a number of other languages, I mainly see it in Norwegian-language news articles. You'll also find it in some older English-language works like Ulysses.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, but I do most of my long form writing on a keyboard, and I couldn't tell you how to type an em dash using a standard keyboard. I just googled it, "press and hold the Alt key while typing 0151 on the numeric keypad, and then release the Alt key", which doesn't seem to work. The fastest way I can find on a Windows 10+ PC is to hold win+. then use the mouse to click the symbols tab, then select —, which is not efficient and not obvious.

Yeah, On the phone it's easy, but I because it has never been readily accessible as a standard key on the keyboard, I have no idea when I would even use it. So I just googled that as well.

I think the EM dash is a good indication that someone has been writing something in a proper word processor like Word or some other document tool. Word at least has a way for you to configure a shortcut key for the symbol. Which, in turn makes it also as likely that the text was produced by a LLM trained on oceans of text containing em dashes.

I could use something like Autohotkey to do replace a triple dash (---) with an em dash, and a double dash (--) with an en dash, but no one else is going to think to do something like that.

If someone is using an em dash casually, it's just suspicious because it really isn't that easy to access and I don't believe (outside professional writers) that most people even know why they would use them.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

on linux it's compose key then three hyphens
on mac it's shift + option + one hyphen

like this —

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Common Windows L.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

The anti-ai hysteria on the site is getting a little silly, and I'm by no means an ai advocate.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Making people scared to type like they normally do to own the AI.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

The woke left want to indoctrinate you with Alt(2014) em dashes—like these—but real patriots use the STRAIGHTNESS symbol⏤like that.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

What's wrong with my line ~ it is all squiggly? Is it because I am gay?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It could go either way, but if it curls right up like this⏤𐐘⏤that's a big gay sign, though if it's more like 𐑀 then you're only a liitle gay.

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Em persecution has to end

mccrucified

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

— hey yeah, it's a long press option on Android too

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Hell, I’m an em dash enjoyer.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I did not know that — and I like using it so much too...

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

not a sign of AI? correct. easy to type? bullshit, i have to google and copy and paste them 😭 my real physical pc keyboard only has - and _ :(

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Just say in the middle of your statement that billionaires should be shot and that will clear up provenance questions immediately!

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Fun fact: you can tell which of my comments I wrote on my phone vs my laptop based on if I write -- (on my phone, because my Thumbkey layout doesn't have an em dash) or — (on my laptop, where I've added Emd for em dash as a custom dictionary entry in my Japanese IME)

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In high school, an English teacher once told us she over used em dashes and her teacher told her you can't just dash through your papers. I tried to avoid their over use after that, which made me learn the other ways to organize my (chaotic) thoughts.

Needless to say, I think that it's a tell of young writers more than AI. The overuse is because the author isn't comfortable with using colons, parenthesis, or commas - the things that the em dash can substitute for grammatically.

A good writer understands offsetting with a dash adds more emphasis than commas (neutral) or parenthesis (lower emphasis). Overuse is a sign of either immaturity or AI. Since there's a lot of immature writers on the internet (and have been since the eternal summer began), it really isn't useful as a tell online.

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