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I am in mad love with this Darmok-ass comment.
Damon's Gatsby, his glass raised
I never understood this mentality, myself.
Gamers: "I never get laid... 😩"
Also Gamers: "Women are just kitchen accessories."
because you think of "I never get laid" as a normal human need to connect with another person, which is what it is but they're too deep in misogyny to realize it. instead to them getting laid is a quest to complete and it involves a quest item known as a woman, not a character. so I never get laid has less of an undertone of "why can't I connect with a woman" and more of "when will we get our government mandated sex slaves"
"but behaved more submissively towards players with a male voice" I want to know what they mean by submissive
They were less confrontational and more likely to accept direction
:D
They got into some freaky shit in those lobbies.
Appeal to authority. Higher-skilled male players got to call the shots, lead, delegate etc.
Same way you're "submissive" to your boss
butt stuff, gotcha
Obligatory footnote: EvoPsych is mostly bunk, deeply intertwined with eugenics and riddled with homophobia, sexism and rape apologia.
Traditionally, yes, but I do want to note that modern takes use it to also argue for cooperation, since working with with others is good for survival and passing on genes. They also are the first to tell people how bunk the alpha male crap is, and the fact a lone wolf is a dead wolf.
I have ~10k hours in counterstrike across multi game versions and accounts. I noticed a similar thing over my years. The players doing well in a match were often neutral towards gamer girls, but the guy having a shit match would be the fastest sack of shit every time. Especially if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.
Obviously there are always exceptions to any rules but in my anecdotal experience the guys who were confident in their abilities didn't care about women but losers would attack them just for speaking.
You're absolutely correct, I had a similar experience
I played CS for roughly the same amount of time; my clan ranges from DMG to Global, but we had a rule that if you were in the clan, we'd 5-man with you regardless of your rank, so if you were Silver, you'd have a chance to rub elbows and learn strategies from the higher skilled players.
Then we got a Global, a girl named Moon.
Holy hell, it's like people's brains did a 180°, they were incredibly mean to her, for no reason, and eventually it came out that she was trans, and they bullied her even worse, out of the server.
I kicked everyone who bullied/demonized Moon for being trans; because at the end of the day, it was about being a honest human being, and not just a CS player/gamer.
Especially if one of the top fraggers pointed out they were being beaten by a girl.
Not really a gold star by the top player’s name for this, either. The comment alone leaves plenty of room to be interpreted as “girls should be easy to beat/poor gamers because they’re girls.”
They wouldn't say "you're getting beaten by a girl" as much as they would respond to the guys losing their minds who happened to be below them on the scoreboard by saying things like "Why are you yelling at her she's playing better than you are shut up". Kinda way.
Man. I miss when gungame was filled with people and all the fun addons. Warcraft 3 mods, vote for knife fight, “gotcha bitch” with every knife kill.
I want to go back.
Counter Strike was way better when this was the vibe. I am so tired of competitive this and gun case that. I've never been interested in 5v5 scrimming in any serious way, but that's all CS2 wants me to do.
I want gun game, I want wc3, I want ZM. I want quirky custom maps (glass!) and quake sounds and !bet ct all. I want to fuck around with new friends on a server for an evening, not to sweat my balls off throwing practiced smokes on dust2.
I’m right there with you. I haaaaaate the direction of modern gaming.
Well then the obvious conclusion is that respecting women makes you better at video games.
More likely higher ranked players finally figured out that keeping harmony within your team does wonders for your chance at winning. The amount of infighting I've had to stop just to save my elo is insane, why would i start something just because of someone's gender.
I have noticed that all of these misogynists are incredibly insecure alpha-pretending males. Can't imagine how tiring this constant fear must be.
So my transition from cringe lord to become a better individual overall is actually just me getting better at video game? Fair enough
No, but it means you give less of a shit when you lose.
Hate is often just a reflection of insecurities and a product of attempting to alleviate cognitive dissonance. Someone feels scared, doesn't like feeling that way, and so converts their fear into anger -- misdirected at someone else.
Reminds me of this: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0361684319871913
In short. The higher the social status of the woman compared to the man, the more likely the man is to sexually objectify her. Wheras women aren't more likely to do this based on relative status.
Objectification is defined as reducing a person to solely looks and sexual function.
Similar stuff is seen in primates. Females are easier targets to assert dominance over. Since they are physically weaker. Male long tail maqacues losing their status, would seek out younger/weaker targets to establish dominance over. Something that was interesting too, is that female maqacues with more masculine facial features, were less often subjected to dominance seeking behaviour (from both males and females if I recall correctly) than females with more feminine faces.
It seems to boil down to "who can I dominate with little risk?" Female? Easy. Big male? Stupid idea. Young male? No problem. Male of equal size? Potentially.
I remember the last time I got messaged by some misogynist dipshit, way back in Halo 5, blaming me for losing the game. ...When he was the worst performing player in the team. I just stared at the post game report and wondered how the heck the dude even managed to get a ranking as low as he did.
My daughter wanted to wear my headset when I was playing battlefield once. It was so funny listening to those losers rage because they Were getting stomped by a 5 yr old girl. Now days she still puts it on from time to time and it's still hilarious.
Source?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4503401/
Pretty sure it was just an excuse for the authors to play Halo, but skimming the study it still looks like valid science.
Who actually needs an excuse to play Halo though?
People with jobs that aren't playing video games.
Playing online since dialup/Internet cafe days, can confirm. Also it’s just more fun to get along.
This is part of why confidence is attractive.
It isn't that confident humans of the male reproductive caste treat women more flippantly; it's that actual competency correlates with not being as much of an insufferable whiny piece of shit.
"I can't even beat a girl!?"
That’s an interesting study. It makes sense that dominance-seeking behavior follows a ‘low-risk, high-reward’ strategy across species. The connection between status, objectification, and primate behavior is fascinating Morse Code Translator—wonder if similar patterns appear in different cultural contexts.
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