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With Kash Patel on the case, we can be rest assured hell for absolutely nothing about these idiots.
Yup, that is a grade A f*ck up right there.
Read the full transcript. There is so much more that is being overlooked besides the "war plans" that were leaked.
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Joe Kent: "I will send you the unclass data we pulled on BAM shipping" This indicates that Kent knew that this conversation was classified and that at least some people in the chat were not privy to at least some level of classified information.
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JD Vance: "I think messaging is going to be tough no matter what – nobody knows who the Houthis are – which is why we would need to stay focused on: 1) Biden failed & 2) Iran funded.". He's basically acknowledging what they're doing is complete bullshit, but it won't matter as long as they blame Biden for it.
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JD Vance: "1) this leaks, and we look indecisive;". I don't even know what to say here.
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Michael Waltz: "Per the president’s request we are working with DOD and State to determine how to compile the cost associated and levy them on the Europeans.". In other words "We're bombing Yemen, and Europe's gonna pay for it."
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JD Vance: "I just hate bailing Europe out again.". I think this is a highly under-reported line in this whole debacle. It shows that the US position on Europe isn't just some political theater to appease Trump, but shows that the US (or at least, this administration's) disdain for Europe is very, very real. This is the geopolitical equivalent of finding out your best friend tells everybody that you're nothing but a freeloading loser when you're not around. Even if it stays quiet, this line will not go unnoticed, and will have a huge impact on US/EU relations going forward.
IMPORTANT EDIT: As I expected, these comments did not go unnoticed. European leaders are already rethinking their relationships with the US in response to not only this entire scandal, but also the specific comments made by JD Vance since it gives evidence of the true feelings of the Trump administration.
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JD Vance: "And if there are things we can do upfront to minimize risk to Saudi oil facilities we should do it.". Good to know where his priorities are. Gotta protect that Saudi oil. Innocent civillians? Fuck 'em. They're not nearly as important as that sweet, sweet black gold.
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Pete Hegseth: "VP: I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC.". See above. This is going to have a huge damping effect on our relations with our European allies going forward, as it reinforces the fact that US disdain for Europe is real and not just political theater for cameras.
So in other words, they're bombing Yemen because Europeans are freeloaders, and if anybody asks why we're even doing this just blame Biden.
Do you have the text of the 'did not go unnoticed' article, as it is paywalled for me
From the article, bolding mine:
"There are demands now for both Mr Waltz, who has been described by a White House official as a “f—ing idiot”, and Mr Hegseth to resign, which – given the seriousness of the security breach - should be the minimum required of them. But what must we conclude about JD Vance, who joined in the sneering at what are supposed to be his country’s chief allies with such gusto? And what about the future of our security operations? Do we continue to supply highly sensitive intelligence to a White House which holds us in contempt and might just accidentally broadcast critical information to random contacts?
And the biggest question of all: whose side is America on now? The “pathetic” Western countries with which it supposedly shares a democratic tradition or its new friend, Vladimir Putin, with whom it could comfortably carve up the world?"
I ran a roleplay spy organization that had tighter INFOSEC and OPSEC than this.
Then whinging about messaging is hilarious to me. It's not like they have ever been good at it it's just their portion of the electorate has been eating lead paint and accepts basically anything.
They were basically saying as much in the chat. A couple of times. If anyone asks any questions, just blame Biden because they know their base will accept it.
European here: we did not ask for your help, we do not particularly want you to bomb the houthis (or anyone in the Middle East for that matter).
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I’m watching the hearing now. Democrats are ROASTING them and calling for their resignations, while Republicans are asking them about China and Mexico and praising their first months in position. It’s disgusting.
The NSA explicitly advised them all against the use of Signal back in February, citing recent breaches of the platform by Russian hackers. Two of them were in Moscow at the time the strikes were communicated, one being Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence.
Edit: The lottery assigned Judge Boasberg to their trial. It’s a good day.
There is obviously an easy fix for this. Get rid of the NSA, CISA, and other cybersecurity people.
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one being Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence
...and Kremlin mouthpiece and asset
Good times, good times.
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We need more than resignations. We need actual punishments. Can't have them just resign and go on to be a private consultant or talking head.
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I'm not familiar with Boasberg, but a quick DDGing tells me he's been blocking deportations. Someone with integrity ? Can you tell me more ?
Yes. He’s the judge that Trump and congressional Republicans have repeatedly threatened with impeachment for obstructing the Executive Branch. Impeachment of a federal judge requires a 2/3 vote in the Senate, and Senate Democrats have already stated that they will not vote in favor.
He has issued injunctions on the Alien Enemies Act deportations, and is the one demanding detailed flight logs and passenger lists for the flights to El Salvador. They very much dislike him for doing his job correctly.
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Signal itself is not vulnerable. This article needs to correct itself. Signal is only vulnerable if the DEVICE THAT USES IT is compromised. Using devices that can be compromised is the issue here. Do not use that device to discuss anything confidential if you are in the government.
This is not Signal's fault at all.
There is no doubt in my mind that their phones are compromised.
They’re refusing to use government issued devices. They’re all using personals. This was an issue last time around, too. There’s a whole fucking division of the government (that I’m sure they’re hollowing out now) whose job it is to make sure people who need secure devices have them and use them.
That’s nuts. I couldn’t even imagine putting anything gov or company secret into a personal device. Hell at work I even watch what I type into google
When Hillary Clinton used a private email server like her Republican predecessors, it was such an enormous breech of security that it launched numerous investigations (all by Republicans, and none concluding that any crimes occurred, or damage was done), and we are still hearing them whine about it to this day. Yet these dopes use off-the-shelf iPhones for communication, exposing our most precious secrets, and none of them think it's an issue.
The only reason we know about this was because they reached a spectacular new level of incompetence, and literally invited a reporter to join them. How many times have they done this before, and how many times will they keep doing it? Discussing classified operations over unsecure phones, that is, not inviting reporters to join in. That will never happen again.
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They are compromised, it doesn’t even matter if the software on their phones is too.
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But a presidential administration is required to keep classified records, and records of all meetings in general.
It may take decades of FOIA requests, but those records are SUPPOSED TO BE KEPT, not deleted forever after 7 days.
This regime using Signal is a major red flag and a permanent information black hole.
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Vance responded a minute later: “Excellent.” Thirty-five minutes after that, Ratcliffe, the CIA director, wrote, “A good start,” which Waltz followed with a text containing a fist emoji, an American-flag emoji, and a fire emoji.
You cannot make this shit up
They're like a bunch of frat boys trying to outdo each other in their edgy hot take. They're creating their own tiny echo chamber where it is cool to hate on other Western countries and admire Russia.
Signal is a publicly available app that provides encrypted communications, but it can be hacked.
This is misleading statement that will only confuse people who want to use a secure messenger.
To clear things up with anyone who's not technically inclined: Anything can be theoretically hacked. Signal has not been hacked and has no history of being compromised.
The Signal "hacks" that linked people's Signal client to devices that aren't theirs were sophisticated phishing/spoofing attacks. The equivalent of getting someone to click a malicious link via email because it looked like the real thing.
A reminder that you still need to do your due diligence even when using a secure service. Technology alone cannot completely protect you.
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This is an article about an article. The original Atlantic article that contains the messages themselves is here
The Government that hires by merit. :\
Pete Hegseth is not top shelf, but his liquor is.
I know. And he's not a good hire for the merit based government either.
Do they know what that means?
They don't care. They only care about owning the libs, killing brown people, and fucking up their own country... to own the libs (again). Pete Hegseth is so incompetent it isn't funny. He is also an astonishingly racist fellow. He even had a Tattoo that says kaffir. Which is odd because Muslims have never used it in the way he and many other islamophobes think it is used. Basically if you are a Jew or a Christian, you are not a kaffir. There is more to say, but I kept this comment in process for more than a day now.
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