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We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. This—alongside the new Plex Pass pricing—will help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I keep a Jellyfin instance running as a hedge. Here's the thing with Plex (and actually a lot of companies set up similarly): those "lifetime" memberships are a trap. Think about it: Plex gets your money ONCE but they have ongoing expenses. Sooner or later, they'll have spent every single cent made by a lifetime membership unless they either get more folks OR squeeze everyone a bit more.

Once they started adding their own shows and making strange UI decisions, I could sense the end was coming. A move like this brings it up fast. Jellyfin is not nearly as good as Plex in a lot of ways, but it's really Open Source.

Anyway, a lot of rambling, but in short: when there is a "lifetime" subscription, watch out!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes, it’s one thing to offer a lifetime subscription early on to get a large cash infusion and reward early adopters, but it’s a big red flag if they don’t get rid of the lifetime subscription eventually. What will happen is one by one, the people that use the service the most will switch to lifetime and your cash flow will dwindle. Eventually the only people left on the month to month are the casual users who don’t use it very often and will leave as soon as a price increase happens.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ITT: valid critiques of plex, understatements about how easy it is to set up and run Jellyfin for you and your friends/family, and a surprising number of people who don’t understand how plex works.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Ease of setup was how I just got one techie friend and two non-techie gamer friends to set up Plex servers and we had libraries shared to each other within 15-30 minutes. I don't want to think about explaining VPNs and SSL to them for the alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A big part of the appeal with Plex is that you can run a server and friends can sign up for a FREE account and stream remotely. When you take this away, you're going to just kneecap the whole offering. This is such an arrogant move from Plex: they are thinking that when this change goes live they will get a flood of subscriptions. The more likely outcome is they will get a few subscriptions and a lot more angry and frustrated people that walk away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Friends can still stream for free, as long as the server is paying for plex pass. That was my main concern, too, but they make a point of stating it directly in the release.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I used to use Plex, then one day my internet was down and since Plex couldn't phone home, it wouldn't let me log in to watch media ON MY LAN.

So yeah it's inherently broken. That's before you even consider the licensing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i'm not sure why it would do this, i've never had any issues with watching plex while the internet is down (in fact that was one of my original uses for it, to have movies and tv in a building without internet). I don't have it turned on but I do know you can go into server settings -> network and set a list of IPs/subnets that can access without any authorization at all. That lets you use plex without even having a plex account afaik.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It has to do with the app used. I think it will work with web player and maybe the windows app, but it won't work on Android/iOS.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I can watch it without Internet

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm surprised by the resistance to Jellyfin in this thread. If you are using Plex, you're already savvy enough to use bittorrent and probably the *arrs. If you can configure that stuff, Jellyfin is absolutely something you can handle. If you like Docker, there's good projects out there. If you're like me and you don't understand Docker, use Swizzin community edition. If you can install Ubuntu or Debian, and run the Swizzin script, you're in business.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The big thing for me with plex is user management. I am absolutely knowledgeable enough to set up jellyfin, but i dont want to deal with user management. Plex makes it easy, i tell them to make their own account and i just share my library. i dont have to reset passwords, they can do that themselves. However, it’s getting to the point where i will probably just switch to jellyfin and deal with it because of how bad plex is getting.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Plex is trivial to set up, most plex users I know actually don’t even use the arrs. They just host a drive someone gave them or they have an account already to access other people’s servers. Anyone can do it with a short list of instructions in minutes that mostly consist of “download app, make account, point to your media.”

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think I represent a huge portion of Plex users; I am tech savvy enough to follow a simple walkthrough on YouTube to get my server setup. But the arrs, jellyfin, and docker both look like graduate level chemistry to me.

Plex has been around for ages and they have put money into making things easier for users like me to understand with events such as Pro Week and directly paying content creators to dumb things down for me.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've said it for years that Plex is shit because of their license and the fact that you have no control everyone said no it's fine it's my media fucking look at it now

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah exactly. I tried to set it up once, installed it on a NAS box, and it starts talking about me making a cloud account. Why do I need a cloud account to log into my own hardware on my own network?

I do not want the cloud
I do not need the cloud
I will say it very loud
No cloud, no cloud, no cloud.

But apparently it's set up so the only way to log into your own locally hosted software on your own locally hosted hardware is with an external cloud account.

To that I said no thank you and uninstalled it.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Hellooooo jellyfin!

Only use open source software

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (12 children)

jellyfin + tailscale is all you need. It's so damn good and easy

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[–] [email protected] 570 points 3 days ago (128 children)
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

Another company fucked by executives.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wireguard so you are always seen as being on the local network. This bit of assholery is easily defeated.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Can’t say I have a huge issue with this - Plex isn’t FOSS and the infrastructure to make this happen isn’t free. Other options are available if you don’t want to pay the fee.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah I don’t see the big deal tbh

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I already pay for plex pass but I'm going to start looking into jelly fin out of principle. I will not support the enshitification of a service I use and this is how it starts. Soon they will have tiered subscriptions and then the cheap one will be taken away and the cheapest paid one will be stuffed with ads then all tiers will be stuffed with ads then they will jack up prices again or charge more for sharing with family or block it all together to force your family to get their own sub and the circle of enshitification will be complete.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Universal media server works for me. I run it headless on a small instance. Streams my movies and music just fine.

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