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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

The problem is that Linux is only ready in certain cases. For me, it isn't there yet, because I can't use it for my gaming machine. Every time this is brought up, Linux enthusiast shrug it off as "no big deal", you can game on Linux, just the games that use kernel level anti-cheat won't work. Well yeah, that's a bit the issue, I still like to play some of those games you see?

Meanwhile, I have Linux Mint running on a laptop that I bring on vacation. I don't game on that one. Then Linux works just as well as any other OS, no issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Before I bought a Steam Deck I had never used Linux but now I really like it, honestly I'm tempted to install SteamOS on my PC as it's only ever used for gaming anyway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 46 minutes ago

Tried it again a few months ago when HDR support first dropped in KDE. It didn't work at all. Everything was desaturated and dim. Literally the opposite of what HDR is supposed to do.

I'm giving it another year before I try Linux again. Hopefully the bugs are sorted by then.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Ok, I'll bite. I tried Ubuntu a few months ago. Logging into Eduroam was a bit of a process, but eventually I figured it out and it worked. Then one day the internet didn't work and I had no idea why. Something to do with the network drivers. Then I was trying to use OpenOffice (or LibreOffice? The one that came with the OS), and I use Zotero for references. The Zotero plugin had a bunch of glitches that made me not trust it. The Internet (back on Windows) assured me that it worked fine, but it was way glitchier than the Windows version.

The bottom line is that I just need this stuff to work because I don't have time to debug. I love the idea though; maybe I was using the wrong distro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

Yeah depending on your hardware things like that can still happen sometimes. I don't think it's a lot more common than on other OSes. It's especially not really usual for something as basic as network drivers to misbehave though, especially suddenly. For what it's worth, my experience trying to use Zotero on Windows on both MS word and LibreOffice writer was also a glitchy mess. Anyway, hope you try it again another time when you are under a bit less pressure and it works out better for you then.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Bazzite is your answer in most cases imo. It's the most functional distro Ive ever used

[–] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago

I love how you're getting downvoted. Kind of says it all

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I daily drive it right now on my gaming rig. It's fairly stable, it has a few issues though like display color tweaking out upon waking up out of sleep or Bluetooth just straight up deciding it's done for the session and forcing me to reboot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Linux was ready for me 15 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I stopped using Linux on my desktop PC in 2007. Last year I switched back, and wow everything is so much smoother now. Video, sound, webcam, networking, all worked perfectly out-of-the-box. No more messing with fglrx for hours to get ATI/AMD graphics working. No more figuring out ALSA vs OSS vs PulseAudio vs whatever else. I don't know what the sound subsystem is even called now, because I don't need to know. It just works.

KDE is beautiful now, too. I tried a few desktop environments and liked KDE the best.

Great time to switch. I've been using Linux on servers since 1999, but it's totally viable for desktops these days too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

The crazy thing is that it will always keep getting better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Linux isn't ready. Not for home users anyway. And I've tried recently. Just constant problems that if I wasn't getting paid I wouldn't have wanted to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Did you buy a machine that comes with Linux and just turn it on and let it update? Alternatively did you buy something for Windows and act shocked when the wifi card was crap and refuse to buy one that actually works for $20?

Honestly Linux Mint was ready for normal people a decade ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I don't see how it's not. I have all the desktops and gaming PCs in my house running EndeavorOS and it's been a flawless experience, much better than Windows. Heck, I've been using Linux for my general desktop since 2015. I only kept a Windows install around for gaming, and that's not even needed anymore.

Even the difference in the installs is utterly absurd. Linux install from USB to full desktop deployment is 15-20 minutes, tops. For Windows, it was more like 2 hours and a bunch of hacks to work around their Microsoft account bullshit.

What exactly "isn't ready" in your opinion?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

So long as you need a terminal to do anything on a Linux machine it's not gonna get any mainstream appeal, most people can barely install a app on windows where they just have to click next a few times. Also if the laptop you buy comes pre-installed with windows what would motivate a regular joe to go out of his way to install Linux on it and risk messing things up by making a mistake. Also people don't want to replace their windows only software and gaming is another reason to stick to windows for now. I'd rather use Linux, but I'll wait till Steam has made most games compatible with Linux, and Nvidia and Amd give proper driver support for linux

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Well you're in luck - because Linux has reached the point where you don't need the terminal for any kind of standard activity. You can easily install and uninstall stuff, and change various desktop UI stuff, and run all sorts of apps - all without ever touching the terminal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Steam has made most games compatible, nvidia has a proper driver, and amd drivers are built in and you don't need to do anything at all. Honestly at this point, Linux is easier to install apps and keep apps updated than Windows. You are 100% right about what already comes on the laptop, and that's why they do it. Its called monopolizing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Some games like Elden ring were even more performant for me on Linux than windows because of shader caching with proton

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

The average 'advanced' window user: CLI is scary!

Also the average 'advanced' windows user: if you open regedit and add this DWORD entry to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Microsoft/application/windows/something, then you can stop Microsoft from screwing you, but it'll revert after each update so you gotta keep fixing it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

The fact that I have to do combersome, confusing registry edits for simple changes on Windows sucks shit. I don't think I've ever once intuitively known where to change something, or the way to do it once.

But it's normalized for the people who have to go find the one fine site out of dozens that will steal your info because they're afraid of learning something new in an era of ensuring no one learns new useful skills so it can be sold back to you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Linux user: Hey I made a PowerShell script for you that'll change the entry so you don't ha.... "advanced" Windows user: KEEP YOUR HACKER LOONIX AWAY FROM ME

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But downloading a .reg file from some rando website is a-okay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

The installation progress is absolutely insane if you think about it.

Oh, so I just go on the internet and download a random executable with the expectation of running it and giving it administrator access and I have to do this every single time I want to install a new piece of software?!

I can't imagine what could go wrong with such a system...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

If you want to see what linux was like 15 years ago try installing OpenBSD lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a use case that makes openBSD desirable? I’ve heard of it but don’t know the main selling point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Simplicity in all the good and bad ways. They also claim to be more secure but I'm not sure if that really applies anymore.

Many security-related things started as an OpenBSD project, like openssh. They don't shy away from making drastic decisions for the sake of quality. For instance, in 2014 when they noticed their bluetooth stack or bluetooth as a concept sort of sucked, they didn't rewrite it. They removed it. I don't think it has been rewritten yet.

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