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https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/trump-fentanyl-weapon-of-mass-destruction-executive-order-draft-scoop

Well this is absolutely frightening in so much that Trump is going to force his way into Canada via military operations by claiming fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.

Anyone remember the Bush Administration and WMDs they said were there but never were?

Elbows up Canuck’s. The time to prepare is most likely closer than we think.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

This is so he can get wartime and "emergency powers" to stop the midterm elections

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

About time the USA started treating domestic terrorism appropriately...

...oh

[–] [email protected] 23 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Soooo can we declare Purdue Pharmaceutical and the Sackler family terrorists organization under that rhetoric? Asking for a friendly nation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nope only applies to illicit fentanyl. Same reason coca cola is the nation's only legal supplier of cocaine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Good thing we can chemically test for traces that let us know the manufacturer and often lot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago

Hmm fenyntal as a weapon wasn't on my list of war crimes to add to the Geneva checklist but we can throw it to the boys to figure out how to make it work and be novel enough to add a section or two to the next version

[–] [email protected] 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Wasn't there a bust of like 1000 lbs of fentanyl crossing the border from the US into Canada recently?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

I believe there was, but Donny dumbass doesn’t care about that.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Then maybe we should stop exporting it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

Yeah we should totally ban drug smuggling!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Serious question, should I get a gun?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The statistics are overwhelmingly clear; the most likely person to be killed by a gun is its owner.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yah show me those statistics cause I highly doubt that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2014/01/111286/access-guns-increases-risk-suicide-homicide

https://time.com/6183881/gun-ownership-risks-at-home/

It makes sense, more proximity to a weapon is more potentially deadly encounters. An intruder very rarely enters your house, but you pass the gun safe in your closet every day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, but those statistics weren't taken in a country that is being invaded or going through a civil war

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

True, and I'd agree on the civil war point.

If you're prepping for an invasion your best bet would be supporting wartime mobilizations instead of personal defense. Bootstrapping a total war economy is no joke.

Your government can probably handle the logistics of recruiting/arming/training people better than local defense cells. However, even if you're not enlisted they'll still need people to work the factories, drive the trucks, sell war bonds, etc...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

What are you talking about, history is over. /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

The only resistance that could stand a chance against the US army would be organized by the Canadian government, in which case they’d provide you with the weapon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

No, fentanyl might be more effective at mass destruction. /s (obviously)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago

It's this that "newspeak" I've been hearing about?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 18 hours ago

Oh for fuck sakes.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fentanyl is the preferred opiate in hospitals. Cheaper per dose. US used to be able to "influence" Afghanistan to help its drug trade profits. Fentanyl is cheap because it doesn't need controlled plants in addition to potency.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/05/918279481/some-health-workers-suffering-from-addiction-steal-drugs-meant-for-patients

Hard to get an exact number for hospital theft amount of fentanyl, but

3,600 cases of alleged drug theft at healthcare facilities over the last five years, including 280 cases so far in 2020.

111,000 instances here where the folks that were reviewing [drug inventories] could not figure out why the math didn't add up,"

What is almost certain is that US healthcare system is a larger source of illegal fentanyl than Canada. If the absurdity that it is a WMD is taken, there should be military security around hospitals before it's placed at the borders.

The death potential of the vial of Anthrax Colin Powell quoted to UN was based on using an eye dropper to kill individuals one by one. WMDs actually require mass deaths from one event as a definition.

Canada needs to immediately stop military cooperation with US. Kick them out of NORAD unless they pay high rent. Stop threatening US enemies, and accepting them as our own.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

yep, when my wife was giving birth, they gave her Fentanyl.

Guess all hopsitals are terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago

Alright, folks. Time to get on [email protected], [email protected], and [email protected]. [email protected] could use some love too

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

For a guy who said he wasn't gonna go to war, he sure as fuck sounds like a guy getting ready to go to war.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 17 hours ago

I just hope the economy finally crashes before he gets the chance.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here comes the "special military operation", but it's not a declaration of war so he doesn't need congressional approval.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 23 hours ago

Actually thanks to the 2001 AUMF he doesn't need Congress as long as it's part of the (still ongoing, never officially ended) "war on terror". Which, presumably, would include stopping WMDs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If you want peace, prepare for war.

I'm not being facetious and I'm not joking, and I don't think he is either.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Those photos of WMDs? They were balls.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

Hands down one of the best shows ever!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Trump right now.

Can we just FFW to the end? Pretty please?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's so far outside the box predictions don't work anymore. But food for thought; Americans associate drugs with Mexico far more than any other country. So this would be one hell of a head whip for the general public. Americans also still consider Canada one of our closest friends on the global stage. Many families in the North span the border. For that fact alone there's a very good chance that if he attacks Canada we'd shut this country down with protests and strikes.

On a rational predictable level he's already declared cartels to be terrorists and Venezuela to be a terrorist state. This is very likely another tool to pressure the Mexican government.

That said, I wouldn't trust us right now. We're like that friend who took too much cocaine and is hiding in the closet with a gun. Unpredictable and dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Speaking for myself, someone with family and friends in the US, I don't trust you one bit right now - your current government is an enemy to Canada, period.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, I’m not really sure Americans would shut down their country at this point. For one thing, they seem incapable of protesting. More importantly though, Republicans seem fully sold on an invasion and even some Democrats seem rather excited to use us to “move their politics left” (as if we’d get the right to vote)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Your optimism as to how the American people would react is cute, but likely not realistic. There's a huge chunk of Americans who voted for this, there's another huge chunk that didn't care to even bother voting. The thought that someone who couldn't be arsed to spend an hour popping in to vote, would get organized and take up arms -- especially on behalf of other people / principles / morals -- is a bit of a stretch.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Here's the thing. The way the American highway system works is it goes from city to city. And millions of people in the northern cities voted against him. We don't need to shut down the roads in the rural red areas. His Canadian state idea also wasn't a part of his campaign and many Americans still think it's nothing more than him being his normal blathering self. So we aren't seeing true opposition get captured in polling yet.

I agree that he's dangerous. And I don't know what we could do to stop him but I am absolutely sure the military would suffer high rates of desertion compared to orders to invade Panama, Mexico, or Venezuela. I am also sure that Congress would not use the war powers act to stop him in any invasion, nor would he listen to them if they did. So whatever has to happen is up to the people, and there are at least 80 million pissed off Americans right now. You're right that I can't guarantee anything on their behalf. I can only offer an inside perspective and my apologies.

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