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[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

Thats great

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Nice, DINUM is doing a lot so great to see go beyond with supra national collaboration!

I'm using NextCloud (Germany and international open source community) hosted on Webo (Slovenia) with data centers in Germany and Helsinki (so I bet on Hetzner). I'm happy with it but I'll keep on eye on https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I'd be curious, they use Minio which puts S3 first. Does it mean Docs (the official instance) is relying on AWS?

If so IMHO that's not a great default EU sovereignty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I would assume (without having looked at the codebase) that if they use minio they are, by default, not reliant on AWS.

Minio is its own S3 implementation which can be self-hosted.

S3, being an AWS protocol originally has AWS environment variables all over the place but that does not necessarily mean a reliance on the service. Rather, they rely on the protocol and you bring your own S3 endpoint I would assume. be that minio, hetzner or what have you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense, closing the issue then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I thought that MinIO is a Open-Source S3 implementation, which you can just install on your own system. S3 is a "protocol" here IIUC.

Is your complaint that they are using the S3 protocol, because it was invented and is controlled by AWS?

Or that some services might use it without MinIO, directly on AWS?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago)

Seems I misunderstood, if it's solely the branding (of that implementation) then it's fine. I thought they relied on AWS itself.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 hour ago

and why so?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

We already have kDrive you get 1TB storage for only 2€ a month, it's based in Switzerland

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is there an open source implementation of kDrive as well?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It is already open-source. All of the source code is on their github and, for docs, they use an implementation of onlyoffice very similar to the one in Nextcloud

[–] [email protected] 2 points 38 minutes ago

Oh that is good to know then. At a cursory glance I only saw the clients' software available as github repositories and the German and French wikipedia pages called it a proprietary service.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Really cool. I tried to sign up but you have to be part of an officially recognized organization in France and input their registration number as part of the process.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah I thought this was open to the general public, I didn't realize that it was not

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

I definitely don't want the government attached to my personal files, in any country.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

While both of those are great software. Unless I'm not aware of something they aren't cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

I don't think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I'll definitely be considering it for our company.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What about Collabora Online? It integrates nicely into Nextcloud, but I am not sure about pricing for business use.

https://www.collaboraonline.com/collabora-online/

Guide for self hosting: https://collabora-online-for-nextcloud.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install/

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

There's onlyoffice for cloud based office

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Onlyoffice seems a little slack on the security and updates. I saw the warnings in the desktop package, have they made sure the online offerings are secure?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

If there are issues like this, sounds like a good goal for a country that wants to divest from US tech companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

There is nextcloud and others you can self host at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

A lot of government programs don't really make sense and are there just to put a name on a CV sadly. Collabora Online does exactly that and is primary licensed under Mozilla Public License.

They could have easily expanded Collabora. But you know, can't stamp your name on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

To be fair, though a new project might not be as efficient as improving another, projects learn off each other, and sometimes it's good to have developmental 'competition', and variety.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 16 hours ago

Really glad to see the EU adopt more open source software as a way to combat the centralized control some of the american software companies have over the space.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

As someone in and from the US, good. Private companies are far to prevalent in public institutions all over the world. Something as basic and fundamental as word processing should not be controlled by a small select few huge international companies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What does this do over what the collabora tools in Nextcloud do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

NGL I keep forgetting NextCloud has collaboration tools.

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