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[–] 128 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just checked the part about self-hosting. While it's probably possible to handle things with a less heavy approach, their only "easy to use" example right now is to have a full-blown kubernetes cluster at hand or run locally in the source directory. That's a bit much.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    In the README there's also instructions for Docker Compose, although it's quite the compose file, with SIXTEEN containers defined. Not something I'd want to self-host.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago*

    it seems to contains development containers and external services containers. So the compose file is more for local dev it seems

    What i do find weird is the choice for Django for the backend. Python is incredibly slow, and django rest framework is even worse.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Honestly, k8s is super easy and very lightweight to run locally if you know the rights tools. There are a few good options but I prefer k3d. I can install Docker/k3d and also build a local cluster running in maybe 2 minutes. It’s excellent for local dev. Even good for production in some niche scenarios

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I don't like the approach of piling more things on top of even more things to achieve the same goal as the base, frankly speaking. A "local" kubernetes cluster serve no purpose other than incredible complexity for little to no gain over a mere docker-compose. And a small cluster would work equally well with docker swarm.

    A service, even made of multiple parts, should always be described that way. It's easy to move "up" the stack of complexity, if you so desire. Having "have a k8s cluster with helm" working as the base requirement sounds insane to me.

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    [–] 67 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Surprised they didn't go with cryptpad - aren't they already French?

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    Fuck :( Didn't know that... I got convinced by the company being supposedly Latvian.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What was wrong with libre?

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  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Pretty sure Libre only does local document collaboration, having it online is helpful for teams far from each other or who simply don't have the infrastructure for their own central server of this kind.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Calligra and LibreOffice already exist though. I am not against this in principle but couldn’t they have invested in an existing FOSS project?

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    While both of those are great software. Unless I'm not aware of something they aren't cloud/network based office suites like Google docs and office 365.

    It seems this is an alternative to office software where you can work simultaneously and share documents in the same cloud/network.

    I don't think there is an alternative to office 365 and Google docs at this point that is open source. So this seems like a great project and I'll definitely be considering it for our company.

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    [–] 42 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    We should actually use an opensource, decentralized and private alternative instead of relying on another centralized service

    See Fileverse for example: https://fileverse.io/

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I agree but having two major countries using this might be a good move for more efforts from nations. I know Canada still uses all M$FT platforms and recently moved to EXO.

    Purpose built projects like this would be easy for public servants to adopt and adapt their workflow.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wish we did with more open source and local software. My school in Canada has some agreement with Microsoft so we have to use everything from them.
    The school mail used for all accounts is hosted by outlook
    The databases are all azure
    The 2fa app on our phone to boot the school computer has to be Microsoft (even gave me shit because I am root...)
    Teams
    We had a whole course for a year on how to use word.

    It's a public school. Obviously with this most students will move to the USA for higher pay, we are literally subsidizing the USA education.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Why distributed? Having your data tied to a blockchain seems unnecessarily complicated, and it essentially puts your data at risk if the bulk of the community moves to the next hot thing.

    We really need to decouple storage from the apps themselves. Whether you use distributed storage, local storage, or something commercially backed like S3 should be a choice separate from the app you use to view and edit your data.

    I self-host Collabora (online version of LibreOffice; OnlyOffice is another option), and my data lives on my NAS, but it could just as easily live on S3 or some distributed data store.

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yes, that's excellent. We need our own Google suite. Fingers crossed so that it may come eventually.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago*

    As someone in and from the US, good. Private companies are far to prevalent in public institutions all over the world. Something as basic and fundamental as word processing should not be controlled by a small select few huge international companies.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Really glad to see the EU adopt more open source software as a way to combat the centralized control some of the american software companies have over the space.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Pretty good project, but is it the future to have mainly web apps?

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Really cool. I tried to sign up but you have to be part of an officially recognized organization in France and input their registration number as part of the process.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Great news!

    This is probably the last hump for me before I can completely degoogle.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Nice. Where is the source, on github (I didn't see it but I only skimmed)? Federated? Self-hostable?

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    From briefly looking over the toot, I think the German version is called openDesk (bad choice as there seems to be some interior design software with the same name) there is a community version you can self host in a docker container. They apparently also have distro packages for Debian and Ubuntu but they seem to have stopped development on those.

    Here's a link: https://opendesk.eu/en/

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Github: https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

    Self-hostable, but it seems like an absolute behemoth of an application if their "non-production-use-only" docker-compose file is to be believed, and I couldn't find any production-ready deployment instructions on a quick skim. No obvious signs of federation and I didn't see anything on their roadmap, not sure it would make a lot of sense for this though.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    So FramaSoft is not a thing ?? It's French

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    I got a kick out of Google Docs alternative since it is trying to be AnyType, AFFiNE, AppFlowy, etc and none of those editors are stupid enough to claim to be Google Docs alternatives nor are they a bloated mess. Proof is in the pudding though... Try putting 1 inch margins on a page & add tab stops with this & printing it out where you get the same results.. oh wait, you can't... Cause it isn't a Google Docs alternative.

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What does this do over what the collabora tools in Nextcloud do?

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Nice, DINUM is doing a lot so great to see go beyond with supra national collaboration!

    I'm using NextCloud (Germany and international open source community) hosted on Webo (Slovenia) with data centers in Germany and Helsinki (so I bet on Hetzner). I'm happy with it but I'll keep on eye on https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs

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