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This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

If you guys haven't started rioting by now then I lack any empathy for you with what comes next.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Who wrote this fucked up bill? And isn't Minnesota a blue state?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 48 minutes ago

but, the bill doesn’t even make sense and uses “psychic” instead of “psychiatric”… so not even proof read….
it’s basically a troll bill, more important things to get upset about (unless you’re in minnesota, then you should petition to remove them)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know how to start a riot

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago

This statement sums up modern Western society.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago

first: start a huge protest with flyers and stuff.
second: start breaking things.
????
nth: prison for inciting a riot.
(although, worth it)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What in tarnation? Is Trump Derangement Syndrome a real diagnosis now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

No, just some terminally online Trump fans think it's real.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This sounds like a great way to get a bunch of cops shot. Which is something they’re trying to push the death penalty for…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

Which results in more cops getting shot

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

I've contacted all those that I can. A director at NAMIMN did respond to my email stating that this bill won't be heard at all. Still fucked up of them to even try.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm not sure why Bill is presenting this shit, but he should stop!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 hours ago

Oh look it’s incredibly fucked up fascist policy again wow I’m so surprised who could have predicted this ?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

"Trump Derangement Syndrome" means the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump. Symptoms may include Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald J. Trump's behavior. This may be expressed by: new text end new text begin (1) verbal expressions of intense hostility toward President Donald J. Trump; and new text end new text begin (2) overt acts of aggression and violence against anyone supporting President Donald J. Trump or anything that symbolizes President Donald J. Tru"

Just in case you missed it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

What’s intense hostility these days? “Eat the rich”?

A meme post that involves suggestion of a Trump micro penis?

There’s too much interpretation left in the wind with some of those phrases.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Description

Trump Derangement Syndrome addition to the definition of mental illness
Authors (5)

Lucero ; Drazkowski ; Wesenberg ; Eichorn ; Gruenhagen 

Actions

Separated  
Chronological  

Senate
03/17/2025 Introduction and first reading
Intro
03/17/2025 Referred to Health and Human Services

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago

These fucking unimaginative regressive vengeful idiots - they just ripped off ODS and CDS and tried to make it a thing during donvict's first term, and then, ironically had such a case of BDS under Biden [1].

Now the bootlicks want to enshrine "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (not a real thing) into law?

[1] ODS, CDS and BDS are and were actual things on the right, though. They kept claiming that these milquetoast center-right Democratic presidents were tyrannical, were going to take their guns, create death panels, bring about a Marxist regime, that qons were being "censored" (lol), and so on....that's some serious derangement.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 hours ago

I saw on a conservative discussion group about making "TDS" (Trump Derangement Syndrom is what they're calling it) an actual entry into psychiatric work. I was wondering where this was coming from.

There it is.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

it's legislative shitposting/meme magic. one of them gets an idea for the meme: adding "Trump Derangement Syndrome" as a mental illness to troll the libs. it provokes a reaction in us, because it's 2025 and for all we know the damn thing might pass at the rate the fascists are consuming the state, and the Republicans' base feeds off of our panic and grief, fueling their schadenfreude. Republican voters are the real trolls; these legislators are just their proxies.

basically, this is the meme magic formula that took 4chan from "ironic" Nazi trolls to an outright fascist resurgence across the West, that took Trump from a meme candidate to the Oval Office, that took the 51st State rhetoric from obvious hyperbole to deadly serious. it's "just a joke" when you're defending it, it's "just trolling" when you're pushing it through, and it's "owning the libs" when you're executing on it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago

As long as you aren't playing it down (I don't think you are but not 100% sure) I'm with you. Historically, that's how we got here.

Still, it needs to be called out, every step of the way. The more such "troll legislation" passes - possibly unseen - the worse things get.

Also, there's no 3- or even more-D chess going on. MAGAGOP is just throwing shit at the wall, not too bothered if something doesn't stick, but immediately ready to follow up if it does. So let's make sure it doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is literally how the soviet union suppressed dissent in the 80s. Disagreement with the party was legally considered a sign of psychological issues. They did this to replace the gulags.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Having a human labeled as internally broken has always been effective. Even on the small scale, society takes a step back, maybe, at most, pities, but the label utterly destroys all leadership capacity due to the seed of doubt it plants in everyone.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

What is wrong with people that they would rather live under the boot of dollar-store Hitler than in a tolerant society of people just getting on with life?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That's what I don't get. Like, why can't we just all get on with our lives, help those you have it worse than us, and work together on a better future for our children?

But no, there's a bunch of narcissistic assholes amassing wealth and convincing the other wannabe narcissists that everyone is out to get them.

I have a small kid and have no clue how to explain to him what the fuck was going on in right now when he's old enough to ask. I just don't get it. It makes me sad, and helpless, and anxious, and I just don't want to have anything to do with the rest of society. And I don't even live in the USA but am solid upper middle class in Scandinavia.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They want people to suffer.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 hours ago

Evil. The word you're looking for is evil.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They believe the propaganda that others hate them or are trying to destroy their way of life, and that dollar-store Hitler is their champion fighting for them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 hours ago

They believe that bullshit against all common sense and by very deliberately ignoring any kind of evidence. Fascists are always assholes first and the fascism just serves to rationalize their shitty behaviour.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

I think it is also important to note that it appears many of these officers are not wearing Level IV plates daily, and plainclothes cops may not be wearing any vest at all.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

It's also important to note that they're planning on introducing gun control for people considered to be mentally ill. They are going to declare every antifascist mentally ill, and use it to take their guns away.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is the litmus test for our democracy. If it passes we are so unbelievably fucking cooked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

We've been hurtling past brightline after brightline for decades. Now it is so flagrantly obvious, can it get any more obvious than multiple Goose-step Salutes, but more importantly the propaganda spin to play them off and justify it as not being a disqualifying action. They used to have to dog whistle their zeal for bigotry and xenophobia.

The question is, what the actual fuck are we going to do about it?

Organize? Direct action? That magic word that happens when you mash up insurance and male arousal? The DNC would not support or pardon folks involved in that effort, and the corporate media would absolutely vilify it.

The answer is obvious, with historical underpinning, although we still have to figure out how to "televise the revolution" in this day and age.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

U guys remember that scene in Schindler’s List where the little girl is screaming “Good bye you Jews!” To all the families as they are being marched off to a slave labor camp? Well this is how that sorta shit starts. Make the opposition the demon and get away with anything.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

This is indeed how that sorta shit starts.

Worse, Americans also seem to have forgotten how to make that sort of shit end. Everyone agreed on what to do with Nazis 80 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

You mean import the upper level Nazis into America ala Operation Paperclip?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Everyone certainly did not agree. A very sizable segment of US citizens were Nazi sympathizers before and after WWII. Remember what it took for the United States to get involved in the war effort in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This is unhinged. I hope it doesn't pass.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago

It won't. Even if it did Walz would would veto it.

Every single elected Nazi will probably vote for it, but they don't have a majority and they are super upset about it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 hours ago

We educated America wrong, as a joke

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago

We live in a world where people worship a businessman/politician as the literal second coming of their messiah, but "Trump Derangement Syndrome" refers to people who are critical of a convicted felon who openly ran for office to kill further prosecutions against him

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I would greatly appreciate if articles like this would include the state in the title.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It’s Minnesota.

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