The fucking nerve for Trump to suggest Zelensky is gambling with WWIII. Ukraine is defending its own nation from invasion and the US is breaking every alliance it can find and causing tensions that remind me all too much of the lead up to WWI.
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With global warming new trade routes are going to open up through the artic. They will be extremely valuable and the countries geographically positioned to compete for them are going to be Russia, China, Canada, and Greenland. This is why America wants Canada and Greenland so bad and will do whatever it takes to get them.
Despite all the Republican denial, someone must believe in climate change. Wonder how the true-believing cult takes this.
Also, with all the tariffs, why do we need trade routes?
Disgusting people are pro climate change because of money.
Can they kick out the US and just ask the EU to station troops there instead?
It's only distraction.
The incoming prime minister should challenge Trump to a one on one fight for Greenland. If he refuses, all state heads should just make chicken noises every time they meet him.
feels wrong if the americans don't wager something. florida, maybe.
"If we win, we get your country, if we lose, you get this garbage heap."
That doesn't sound fair to Greenland if/when Trump loses.
It will look funny on maps when Canada shorts fit better because of that.
It will look funny on the map when something is cut off
Maybe they can just convert it to a cash prize, how much is one Florida worth anyway?
Treefiddy?
I'd give like, 5€?
I love this plan.
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For what "national security reasons"? I'd like him to elaborate. Is Greenland somehow threatening the US? the only country threatening other countries in the area is the US.
I'd like Trump, Musk and the whole republican party to go fuck themselves. For national security reasons.
I imagine it's to put defences in the Arctic....
But if Putin and Russia are fantastic and great people why does America need to guard the Arctic?
For those evil Norwegians, they might try to spread universal Healthcare!
It's the same playbook used by Putin with Ukraine
He has americans convinced that they need to annex greenland to protect them from Russia and China. For some reason they think China is closer to greenland than to Hawaii …
But Trump loves Russia, aren't they great? Why would they ever be a threat?
I don't know a single American that believes what you just said. Most of us recognize this as bullshit.
Note: I'm not in a deep red state
I don't think that most republicans believe they need Greenland for security reasons, but so what? They might as well, or it would be better if they did at least believe this, because the person they voted for and are still supporting is acting like a lunatic. And they are cheering him on, or at least condoning it.
I do believe that that plenty of republicans like Trump threatening former allies like a big and strong ~~businessman~~/mob boss would do. The same goes for those who think they should grab Greenland for the resources, or just because they can.
Let me guess, natural resources.
Also strategic control of the melting and ever more passable Arctic, along with Russia. This also partly explains why Trump wants Canada.
Yeah, but I thought climate change wasn't real.
Not to detract, but I never noticed how phallic Sweden and Norway looked from that angle
Looks like newer euro coins include Norway, but that wasn't always the case, leading to this unfortunate creation:
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
This shit is so insanely dumb and short-sighted. But not surprising given his business "acumen."
This is literally the only thing he knows.
The US already has that agreement!
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
Dismissing it as insanity undermines the culpability of what Trump is doing.
The point isn't whatever 'national security!' bullshit they're putching it as, the point is to piss of Greenland to the point of severing our relationship with them. Same with the shit he's doing to Canada, Panama, etc.
Trump's goal is to weaken the US, and he's accomplishing that in part by cutting us off from our allies.
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They already have strategic control over Greenland. Denmark would let the USA do almost whatever they want on greenland.
Denmark probably were the USAs biggests bitch in Europe until they started threatening Greenlands sovereignity.
Just another case of Trump apparently not understanding that you can be powerful in other ways than bullying and threatening people, and often more powerful. Or it's all in the service of furthering Putin's agenda and weakening the West. Or both.
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If anything it's cause for national insecurity, given that if they invade, per NATO rules, an attack on one is an attack on all.
But Trump is used to getting what he wants by breaking the rules and facing no consequences, so I guess it'll be a FAFO thing.
I must admit, I do fear that if it comes to that NATO will fight the usual way - strong worded letter. For a buffoon who can't even read and only responds to a fat stick to the face.
This is going to be interesting because Article 5 assumes an attack on a member state by a non-member state.
By attacking Greenland, Trump would violate Articles 1 and 2 (pledging to use peaceful means to settle a dispute and contribute to friendly relations though you could argue he's violating the latter right now).
I think the whole point of this act is to force NATO to kick the US out of NATO, which is exactly what Russia (and by extension Trump) wants.
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It is such an insult but he is incapable of empathy, not that he'd care if he could
So I got curious and decided to pay a visit to my favorite site to see this... Greenland is about the size of the US Midwest. I did not know that until today.
I'm reasonably certain that Trump thinks Greenland is much larger. He is stupid, after all.
It's more about the resource extraction rights.
Ahhhhh. NOW the Canada and Greenland thing makes sense. If Trump took over Canada and Greenland, then Russia gains full control of the artic.
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Danish Defense Committee Chairman Rasmus Jarlov warned that US annexation "would mean war between two NATO countries."
It's going to be one NATO country soon if the US really goes through of leaving NATO.
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Well I recall reading about what happened the last time vikings tried to land on American shores, and I say bring em on!
I just need to check my notes real quick.
Okay so it turns out we may have genocided the people who defended their homeland against some of the most feared warfighters of that time, so perhaps trump just drops this whole thing before unnecessary blood is shed.
Seriously, anyone who gets so much as a papercut as a direct result of one of trump's orders is regretful and unfortunate.
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